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Re: Cocoa's Popularity
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Re: Cocoa's Popularity


  • Subject: Re: Cocoa's Popularity
  • From: Dennis De Mars <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:59:50 -0800

On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 01:43 PM, Thomas Lachand-Robert wrote:

Le mercredi 20 mars 2002, ` 10:06 , Erik M. Buck a icrit :

And finally, just to inject my trademark rant: Apple is doing NOTHING to
encourage Cocoa use as far as I can tell.

I agree with your rant, but don't forget that Apple IS doing something for Cocoa: they are selling Macs. We all agree that they could do better also for that, but basically that's the main point, isn't it?

Cocoa's popularity may have increased a little bit by itself. But that's mainly the number of computers containing it that counts. What do you believe was leading NeXt to its end?


Absolutely, and I would also add that this seems to be quite subjective. In a discussion on the Carbon mailing list I suggested that Apple's activities in promoting Carbon and Cocoa was fairly even-handed, and one of the developers responded that as far as he could see Apple was doing a lot to visibly promote Cocoa and virtually nothing to promote Carbon.

...and maybe he's right. Go to the WWDC page at:

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc2002/

Look at the bulleted list. Cocoa is mentioned in the first bullet (granted, along with Java and Unix, which is interesting because that whole paragraph is clearly addressed to programmers developing on other platforms). Not only that, but Carbon's bullet, which is in the third position, mentions Cocoa as the way to write ground-up apps! How about that, Apple's proselytizing for Cocoa in Carbon's bullet!

Anyway, I don't know what more they can do. They provide the development environment and documentation for FREE, they hold a lot of sessions on Cocoa at WWDC, make workshops available...
There's only so much they can do, they can make developers aware Cocoa but it is up to the individual developer to make a judgment.

- Dennis D.
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