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Re: Is Cocoa+Java considered relevant to the list?
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Re: Is Cocoa+Java considered relevant to the list?


  • Subject: Re: Is Cocoa+Java considered relevant to the list?
  • From: Ilan Volow <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:45:56 -0400

On Thursday, September 25, 2003, at 03:19 PM, Scott Ellsworth wrote:

On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 11:14 PM, Ilan Volow wrote:

Hi, I'm a newcomer to the list, so forgive me if this has been asked a million times before. Is this list the correct place to post Java+Cocoa questions, or is this strictly an Obj-C group?

It is the proper place for any Cocoa discussion in any language, though the vast majority here program in ObjC. I use Java for my Cocoa work, as a rule, as I like the toolchain better. I know of at least one person who uses CocoaPython, and hangs out here. (Or did - Just - you still here?)

Actually, I'm arriving at the use of Java for my program because it's really the only choice I have.

My original program was written in python (for linux using PyGtk for the UI). When I took a look at PyObjC,it seemed confusing and unpythonic and I couldn't find much substantial documentation on how to use it. Python in general is also rather sparse in the way of security/PKI classes and SSL. No dice.

I then started re-writing the program in ObjC, but I didn't get very far, as my program heavily relies on regular expressions, and MOKit seems to do regular expression strings in a way that is different from virtually every other programming language on the planet (including the one I originally used for my program). While I appreciate Mike Ferris' hard work, I really need a solution that will easily port from something like perl or python regular expression strings. There's also the matter of needing SSL support and classes for PKI stuff. I didn't really get a chance to see whether Foundation had objective-c classes for these, as the regular expression issue was a major deal-breaker. I really wish Apple would add a NSRegularExpression class to the Foundation API.

Which brings me to Java, which does have regular expressions and has a fairly substantial set of classes for security stuff. I'm not very fond of Java, but it has everything I need and all the other solutions don't. This is my rational for using Java. Anyhow, I'm glad to know that this is a place where I can post my Java+Cocoa question. I'll put it up in the next day or two.

--Ilan
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