Re: XCode 1.2 via Software Update?
Re: XCode 1.2 via Software Update?
- Subject: Re: XCode 1.2 via Software Update?
- From: "Dennis C. De Mars" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:51:39 -0700
On Jul 10, 2004, at 8:43 PM, Wade Tregaskis wrote:
Can anybody tell me why Apple has chosen to now allow update of
XCode 1.2 via Software Update?
The last time they did that (with Xcode 1.1), they made it so that
different people had different variations on the developer tools
installed, and this made a lot of people in collaborative groups
angry. The software update didn't include the 10.2.8 SDK and
Interface Builder 2.4.1, among other things. The xcode-users mailing
list was full of posts complaining about this decision. When the
software update was discontinued, the complaints stopped.
You'll find it's also full of complaints about XCode bugs... maybe
they should just stop distributing it entirely - that would solve
their problems even moreso!
:P
More on topic though, while I can accept not having updates through
Software Update (especially given they would then appear to anyone who
happens to have the Developer Tools installed, even if they have no
idea; the computer just came that way), I still don't understand the
point of the bazillion-segment approach in the most recent XCode
update... that drove me insane downloading and then reconstructing
that... why is there not just a single large download? Since I
downloaded it on dialup, don't give me any crud about it being better
in segments... find me a FTP client from the last decade which can't
resume downloads...
Wade Tregaskis (aim: wadetregaskis)
-- Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
The last time they had a large download available as one big file, it
was a nightmare. I don't recall if it was an Xcode upgrade or an OS
seed (I think the latter), but you just couldn't download it. It would
get part way through and then hang, and this happened for days. Almost
nobody could download it.
Subsequently, they went back to segments. This was still an incredible
pain in the backside, but better than not being able to download it at
all. You had to individually download each segment, clicking on the
next segment when then last one was finished. Having to babysit it
through all of those downloads was excruciating. The alternative was to
copy the URL for the ftp transfer and set up a series of FTP commands
to download the segments, which was only semi-automatic because some of
them would fail and you'd have to re-download some segments (client
ability to resume downloads apparently depends on the server side
cooperating, which wasn't happening).
That was before they got the Finder FTP integration working and
probably fixed some things on the server side too. Now it is a fairly
pleasant process. You click on the "segments" button and all segments
download into a single folder. No baby-sitting necessary, you just come
back later and it is all there. Then you usually have to decode the
head segment from .bin and double click on it, and the disk image
mounts -- Disk Utility automatically reads all of the other segments.
It would only be marginally simpler if the download was one disk image.
The current system is so much better than the previous iterations, I
find no reason to complain. Maybe it is different if you download via
dial-up ( you have my sympathies) but what is the problem with
reconstructing? You just open the first segment and the entire disk
image mounts, just as if you downloaded one large image.
- Dennis D.
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