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Re: XCode 1.2 via Software Update?
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Re: XCode 1.2 via Software Update?


  • Subject: Re: XCode 1.2 via Software Update?
  • From: "Dennis C. De Mars" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:51:39 -0700

On Jul 10, 2004, at 8:43 PM, Wade Tregaskis wrote:

Can anybody tell me why Apple has chosen to now allow update of XCode 1.2 via Software Update?

The last time they did that (with Xcode 1.1), they made it so that different people had different variations on the developer tools installed, and this made a lot of people in collaborative groups angry. The software update didn't include the 10.2.8 SDK and Interface Builder 2.4.1, among other things. The xcode-users mailing list was full of posts complaining about this decision. When the software update was discontinued, the complaints stopped.

You'll find it's also full of complaints about XCode bugs... maybe they should just stop distributing it entirely - that would solve their problems even moreso!

:P

More on topic though, while I can accept not having updates through Software Update (especially given they would then appear to anyone who happens to have the Developer Tools installed, even if they have no idea; the computer just came that way), I still don't understand the point of the bazillion-segment approach in the most recent XCode update... that drove me insane downloading and then reconstructing that... why is there not just a single large download? Since I downloaded it on dialup, don't give me any crud about it being better in segments... find me a FTP client from the last decade which can't resume downloads...

Wade Tregaskis (aim: wadetregaskis)
-- Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

The last time they had a large download available as one big file, it was a nightmare. I don't recall if it was an Xcode upgrade or an OS seed (I think the latter), but you just couldn't download it. It would get part way through and then hang, and this happened for days. Almost nobody could download it.

Subsequently, they went back to segments. This was still an incredible pain in the backside, but better than not being able to download it at all. You had to individually download each segment, clicking on the next segment when then last one was finished. Having to babysit it through all of those downloads was excruciating. The alternative was to copy the URL for the ftp transfer and set up a series of FTP commands to download the segments, which was only semi-automatic because some of them would fail and you'd have to re-download some segments (client ability to resume downloads apparently depends on the server side cooperating, which wasn't happening).

That was before they got the Finder FTP integration working and probably fixed some things on the server side too. Now it is a fairly pleasant process. You click on the "segments" button and all segments download into a single folder. No baby-sitting necessary, you just come back later and it is all there. Then you usually have to decode the head segment from .bin and double click on it, and the disk image mounts -- Disk Utility automatically reads all of the other segments. It would only be marginally simpler if the download was one disk image.

The current system is so much better than the previous iterations, I find no reason to complain. Maybe it is different if you download via dial-up ( you have my sympathies) but what is the problem with reconstructing? You just open the first segment and the entire disk image mounts, just as if you downloaded one large image.

- Dennis D.
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References: 
 >XCode 1.2 via Software Update? (From: Robert Nicholson <email@hidden>)
 >Re: XCode 1.2 via Software Update? (From: Nick Zitzmann <email@hidden>)

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