Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 2, Issue 192
Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 2, Issue 192
- Subject: Re: Cocoa-dev Digest, Vol 2, Issue 192
- From: Lorenzo <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:18:59 +0100
I had the same idea, a rectangle over all fading to black. But it sounds as
a poor idea. If I don't reach a better solution, well, I will do this way.
Best Regards
--
Lorenzo
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> 1. Re: what size is the menu bar font? (Ricky Sharp)
> 2. Re: spawing a server... (j o a r)
> 3. scrollRowToVisible not working (Daniel Child)
> 4. getenv? (Brian O'Brien)
> 5. Re: getenv? (Kevin Ballard)
> 6. Re: getenv? (j o a r)
> 7. Folder Icons In Sidebar? (Oliver Cameron)
> 8. Re: Fade out the window content (Guy English)
> 9. Re: Fade out the window content (Lorenzo)
> 10. Threading... (Brian O'Brien)
> 11. Re: Folder Icons In Sidebar? (The Karl Adam)
> 12. Re: Do I need to use Distributed Objects or not? (Chaz McGarvey)
> 13. Re: Threading... (Kevin Ballard)
> 14. Re: Fade out the window content (Dominik)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:16:50 -0600
> From: Ricky Sharp <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: what size is the menu bar font?
> To: Matt Neuburg <email@hidden>
> Cc: email@hidden
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> On Wednesday, February 09, 2005, at 12:23PM, Matt Neuburg <email@hidden>
> wrote:
>
>> According to the docs, calling NSFont +menuFontOfSize with size 0 returns
>> the default menu font in the default size. But I am constructing a menu in
>> the menu bar using attributed strings, and when I set the size this way, it
>> comes out smaller than all my other menus. This is true whether I say
>> menuFontOfSize, systemFontOfSize, menuBarFontOfSize, or whatever. Is this a
>> bug? If my menus are not already in the "default size", in what sense *is*
>> this size the default? And how am I supposed to learn what font and size the
>> menus are in, if not by this very method? m.
>
> Interesting. I wrote a quick app to show what value was returned by [[NSFont
> menuFontOfSize:0] pointSize]. Under 10.3.7, I got a value of 13.
>
> I then took a screen shot of TextEdit's Format menu. Then, in TextEdit, I set
> the font to Lucida Grande 13pt and entered the text "Prevent Editing" and
> "Wrap to Page". Took a screenshot of the text.
>
> Using Photoshop, I superimposed one screenshot over the other and sure enough,
> the 13pt text in the TextEdit documement was smaller.
>
> Upping the text size in the doc to 14pt then yielded a perfect match when
> superimposing the resultant screenshots.
>
> Looks like an off-by-one bug to me.
>
> --
> Rick Sharp
> Instant Interactive(tm)
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>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:17:29 +0100
> From: j o a r <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: spawing a server...
> To: "Brian O'Brien" <email@hidden>
> Cc: cocoa <email@hidden>
> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> For networking client / server example code you might want to have a
> look at the Echo / Echo Client examples found in your
> /Developer/Examples/Networking folder. Or perhaps the PictureSharing /
> PictureSharingBrowser found in your /Developer/Examples/Foundation
> folder, for an example from higher level frameworks. Or check the list
> archives. Personally I would probably use something from CFNetwork, and
> / or NSStream APIs.
>
> For communication between threads, you can use
> "performSelectorOnMainThread:" for one-way communication from a
> background thread to the main thread, or Distributed Objects (DO) for a
> two-way link - or pick any old trick from your favourite handbook in C
> programming.
>
> j o a r
>
> On 2005-02-09, at 19.02, Brian O'Brien wrote:
>
>> I want to spawn a communications server in main.mm
>>
>> MyServer s;
>> datatype ourDataQueue;
>>
>> int main(int argc, char *argv[])
>> {
>> try
>> {
>> s.start(ourDataQueue);
>> return NSApplicationMain(argc, (const char **) argv);
>> }
>> catch (const char *msg)
>> {
>> printf("%s\n", msg);
>> return(-1);
>> }
>> }
>>
>> The idea here is that the server start method is a non blocking and
>> the server puts data into the dataQueue. (And then notifies its parent
>> thread that new data has arrived.. how I'm not sure yet.)
>>
>> My question are:
>>
>> I could have the start method do a fork/exec but is there a preferred
>> method such as a thread for Cocoa development? (Pointers please).
>>
>> If a thread is spawned and places data into the queue then is there
>> any issues regarding a different thread accessing the queue?
>>
>> Inter thread communications... Is there a Cocoa way?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:23:30 -1000
> From: Daniel Child <email@hidden>
> Subject: scrollRowToVisible not working
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> The tableview connection to Controller shows that
> "equivalenceTableView" is the connected outlet. Is that correct, or is
> there another connection I should be doing.
>
> The table works fine except for this feature. One thing that confuses
> me is that there are three standard methods: (number of rows to
> display, what gets displayed where). Those were set before the idea of
> changing the visible row position. Do I have to alter these to make
> scrollRowToVisible to work?
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2005, at 10:03 AM,
> email@hidden wrote:
>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:47:34 -0800
>> From: Larry Fransson <email@hidden>
>> Subject: Re: NSTableView scrollRowToVisible
>> To: cocoa-dev List <email@hidden>
>> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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>>
>> On Feb 9, 2005, at 03:10, Daniel Child wrote:
>>>
>>> [equivalenceTableView scrollRowToVisible: <theNumber>];
>>>
>>> doesn't seem to work.
>>
>> I have to ask because you don't mention it and it's so often the source
>> of problems like this: Did you connect your outlet to the table view
>> in IB?
>>
>> Larry Fransson
>> Seattle, WA
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 14:38:44 -0700
> From: "Brian O'Brien" <email@hidden>
> Subject: getenv?
> To: cocoa <email@hidden>
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>
> If a Cocoa application uses an environment variable:
> 1) is that a bad idea
> 2) where should the environment variable be set up... i.e. .cshrc
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:44:31 -0500
> From: Kevin Ballard <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: getenv?
> To: "Brian O'Brien" <email@hidden>
> Cc: cocoa <email@hidden>
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> On Feb 9, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Brian O'Brien wrote:
>
>> If a Cocoa application uses an environment variable:
>> 1) is that a bad idea
>
> Possibly.. I guess it depends on why you're using it.
>
>> 2) where should the environment variable be set up... i.e. .cshrc
>
> There's a special place you can put a plist to set up environment
> variables for all your apps. I think it's ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist,
> although I could be wrong. However, there is a nice preference pane you
> can use to set this up: <http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14617>
>
> --
> Kevin Ballard
> email@hidden
> http://www.tildesoft.com
> http://kevin.sb.org
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:51:36 +0100
> From: j o a r <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: getenv?
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> On 2005-02-09, at 22.38, Brian O'Brien wrote:
>
>> If a Cocoa application uses an environment variable:
>> 1) is that a bad idea
>
> I don't know, it probably depends on what type of data you want to
> place there. What did you have in mind? Application preferences are
> usually managed via NSUserDefaults - check it out if you haven't
> already!
>
>> 2) where should the environment variable be set up... i.e. .cshrc
>
> <http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1067.html>
>
> And perhaps:
>
> <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/
> BPRuntimeConfig/Concepts/EnvironmentVars.html>
>
> At this time I would also like to highlight a very easy way to find
> stuff like this:
>
> <http://developer.apple.com/search/search.html>
>
> j o a r
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:00:44 +0000
> From: Oliver Cameron <email@hidden>
> Subject: Folder Icons In Sidebar?
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> Hi guys,
>
> Does anyone know a way to access the folder icons the Finder uses for
> the side bar icons? Like the application icon becomes the pencil and
> ruler.
>
> Also, is there a way to access the Folder icons used by the Finder in
> the normal view? Like say, when you rename a folder to "Public", it
> changes its icon to the folder with the yellow badge on.
>
> Any help appreciated,
> Oliver
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:01:59 -0500
> From: Guy English <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Fade out the window content
> To: Lorenzo <email@hidden>
> Cc: email@hidden
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> Render the windows content view to an NSImage.
> Remove the content view and replace it with your own NSView subclass.
> pass the image to your NSImage subclass and tell it to start fading.
>
> In the NSView subclass you'll need an NSImage an NSTimer, an NSColor
> to disolve to and an NSDate for the start time. You may also want a
> duration as an NSTimeInterval.
> When you get the start message register a timer.
> When you get the timer fired message workout how long you've been
> running for and set yourself as needing redisplay.
>
> In the drawRect fill the bounds rect with the disolve to color then
>
> alpha = 1.0 - ((now - startTime) / duration)
>
> use this alpha to render the image (pass it in the fraction of the
> drawInRect method).
>
> When you've passed your duration stop the timer and you're done.
>
> Guy
>
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:56:46 +0100, Lorenzo <email@hidden> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> do you know a way to fade out to black the whole content of a window?
>>
>> Best Regards
>> --
>> Lorenzo
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>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:53:46 +0100
> From: Lorenzo <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Fade out the window content
> To: Guy English <email@hidden>
> Cc: Cocoa List <email@hidden>
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>
> Thank you, but... in my window I have a NSOpenGLView which runs an animation
> actually. I can't do what you say. I need to act on the rgba values, but I
> don't know how yet.
>
> Any idea?
>
>
> Best Regards
> --
> Lorenzo
> email: email@hidden
>
>> From: Guy English <email@hidden>
>> Reply-To: Guy English <email@hidden>
>> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:01:59 -0500
>> To: Lorenzo <email@hidden>
>> Cc: email@hidden
>> Subject: Re: Fade out the window content
>>
>> Render the windows content view to an NSImage.
>> Remove the content view and replace it with your own NSView subclass.
>> pass the image to your NSImage subclass and tell it to start fading.
>>
>> In the NSView subclass you'll need an NSImage an NSTimer, an NSColor
>> to disolve to and an NSDate for the start time. You may also want a
>> duration as an NSTimeInterval.
>> When you get the start message register a timer.
>> When you get the timer fired message workout how long you've been
>> running for and set yourself as needing redisplay.
>>
>> In the drawRect fill the bounds rect with the disolve to color then
>>
>> alpha = 1.0 - ((now - startTime) / duration)
>>
>> use this alpha to render the image (pass it in the fraction of the
>> drawInRect method).
>>
>> When you've passed your duration stop the timer and you're done.
>>
>> Guy
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:56:46 +0100, Lorenzo <email@hidden> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> do you know a way to fade out to black the whole content of a window?
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> --
>>> Lorenzo
>>> email: email@hidden
>>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:06:05 -0700
> From: "Brian O'Brien" <email@hidden>
> Subject: Threading...
> To: cocoa <email@hidden>
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>
> I have the following:
>
> in dicomSCP.h
>
> @interface dicomSCP : NSObject {
>
> }
>
> + (void) ThreadMethod:(id)anObject;
> - (void) InstanceThreadMethod:(id)anObject;
>
> @end
>
> in dicomSCP.mm
>
> @implementation dicomSCP
>
> + (void)ThreadMethod:(id)anObject
> {
> NSAutoreleasePool *pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init];
> // Do thread work here
> [pool release];
> }
> - (void)InstanceThreadMethod:(id)anObject
> {
> }
> @end
>
>
> in main.mm
>
> #include "dicomSCP.h"
>
> int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> {
> [NSThread detachNewThreadSelector:@selector(ThreadMethod:)
> toTarget:[dicomSCP class] withObject:nil];
> return NSApplicationMain(argc, (const char **) argv);
> }
>
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1) Is there a better place to start the thread?
> 2) Where is the instance of my class dicomSCP? Without one I don't
> know how to call 'thread safe' member functions.
> 3) I don't get the + / - in front of the methods.. Instance vs. Class?
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:09:59 -0500
> From: The Karl Adam <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Folder Icons In Sidebar?
> To: Oliver Cameron <email@hidden>
> Cc: email@hidden
> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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>
> NSWorkspace -iconForFile:
>
> -Karl
>
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:00:44 +0000, Oliver Cameron <email@hidden> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Does anyone know a way to access the folder icons the Finder uses for
>> the side bar icons? Like the application icon becomes the pencil and
>> ruler.
>>
>> Also, is there a way to access the Folder icons used by the Finder in
>> the normal view? Like say, when you rename a folder to "Public", it
>> changes its icon to the folder with the yellow badge on.
>>
>> Any help appreciated,
>> Oliver
>>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 16:09:33 -0700
> From: Chaz McGarvey <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Do I need to use Distributed Objects or not?
> To: Michael Becker <email@hidden>
> Cc: Cocoa Dev Dev <email@hidden>
> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Hello:
>
> On Feb 9, 2005, at 5:05 AM, Michael Becker wrote:
>
>> I need to do several thread-worthy little tasks in my application,
>> e.g. loading data from a server or loading several images (much like
>> iPhoto's import). I think I know the basic idea of threading in Cocoa
>> but I was just wondering what exactly I need. I do not want to do it
>> more complicated than necessary. Here are the general features I need:
>>
>> 1) the main thread needs to be informed when the detached thread has
>> finished
>> 2) the user should be able to cancel the detached thread (that's not a
>> big problem, I just use a BOOL flag, right?)
>> 3) the GUI has a progress indicator which should be in sync with
>> whatever the detached thread does.
>
> I have found DO to be riddled with "gotchas" and I try to avoid it
> wherever I can. If you don't feel like reinventing the wheel, then I
> have a solution that complies with all of your requirements:
>
> http://www.brokenzipper.com/developer/threadedtask-0.3.tar.gz
>
> ThreadedTask is a very lightweight class which manages the threading
> itself. It's very easy to use.
>
>> As my mechanism should work like iPhoto's image import, I will also
>> need to update an NSImageView with the image that is currently being
>> imported...
>
> It would be simple to accomplish this, too. I would do something like
> this (coded in Mail.app):
>
> /* Custom iteration method, called on a separate thread. */
> - (int)imageLoadTask:(ThreadedTask *)theTask iteration:(unsigned)i
> {
> MyImageContext *context = [theTask context];
>
> // load the next image.
> [context loadImageAtIndex:i];
>
> // tell the main thread this iteration is complete.
> [theTask reportProgress:i];
>
> // exit if this is the last image to load.
> if ( [context imageCount] == i + 1 ) {
> return 0;
> }
>
> // continue iterating.
> return 1
> }
>
> /* ThreadedTask delegate methods. */
> - (void)threadedTask:(ThreadedTask *)theTask
> reportedProgress:(int)theProgress
> {
> MyImageContext *context = [theTask context];
>
> // put the image into a NSImageView or something.
> DisplayImage( [context imageAtIndex:theProgress] );
> }
>
> - (void)threadedTaskFinished:(ThreadedTask *)theTask
> {
> NSLog( @"all done loading the images..." );
> }
>
>
> Good luck,
> Chaz McGarvey
> http://www.brokenzipper.com
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:12:39 -0500
> From: Kevin Ballard <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Threading...
> To: "Brian O'Brien" <email@hidden>
> Cc: cocoa <email@hidden>
> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Feb 9, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Brian O'Brien wrote:
>
>> 1) Is there a better place to start the thread?
>
> How about the NSApplicationDidFinishLaunching notification (or NSApp
> delegate method)?
>
>> 2) Where is the instance of my class dicomSCP? Without one I don't
>> know how to call 'thread safe' member functions.
>
> You haven't create done. To create one, call [[dicomSCP alloc] init]
> and that will return a new instance.
>
>> 3) I don't get the + / - in front of the methods.. Instance vs. Class?
>
> Yes. + means class method, - means instance method.
>
> --
> Kevin Ballard
> email@hidden
> http://www.tildesoft.com
> http://kevin.sb.org
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:22:27 +0100
> From: Dominik <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Fade out the window content
> To: email@hidden
> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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> Maybe overlay a BLACK image fading in?
> I dont know!
>
> Am 09.02.2005 um 23:53 schrieb Lorenzo:
>
>> Thank you, but... in my window I have a NSOpenGLView which runs an
>> animation
>> actually. I can't do what you say. I need to act on the rgba values,
>> but I
>> don't know how yet.
>>
>> Any idea?
>>
>>
>> Best Regards
>> --
>> Lorenzo
>> email: email@hidden
>>
>>> From: Guy English <email@hidden>
>>> Reply-To: Guy English <email@hidden>
>>> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:01:59 -0500
>>> To: Lorenzo <email@hidden>
>>> Cc: email@hidden
>>> Subject: Re: Fade out the window content
>>>
>>> Render the windows content view to an NSImage.
>>> Remove the content view and replace it with your own NSView subclass.
>>> pass the image to your NSImage subclass and tell it to start fading.
>>>
>>> In the NSView subclass you'll need an NSImage an NSTimer, an NSColor
>>> to disolve to and an NSDate for the start time. You may also want a
>>> duration as an NSTimeInterval.
>>> When you get the start message register a timer.
>>> When you get the timer fired message workout how long you've been
>>> running for and set yourself as needing redisplay.
>>>
>>> In the drawRect fill the bounds rect with the disolve to color then
>>>
>>> alpha = 1.0 - ((now - startTime) / duration)
>>>
>>> use this alpha to render the image (pass it in the fraction of the
>>> drawInRect method).
>>>
>>> When you've passed your duration stop the timer and you're done.
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:56:46 +0100, Lorenzo <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> do you know a way to fade out to black the whole content of a window?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> --
>>>> Lorenzo
>>>> email: email@hidden
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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> May you always find water and shade (WoT)
> Dominik
>
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