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Re: Smart Group Question


  • Subject: Re: Smart Group Question
  • From: SA Dev <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:20:34 -0400


This is the kind of thing that is very difficult to glean from the documentation as-is - it's easy to miss because IIRC it's not specifically stated anywhere. NSPredicate and the like appear only in 10.4 (alongside Core Data). I have only ever seen NSPredicate in the context of Core Data, and so naturally associate the two.


Now that you've drawn that distinction, I guess that NSPredicate and such use KVC and it does make sense that it would work just fine apart from Core Data. Thanks, it does clarify a few muddy concepts ...

Thanks to an off-list reply from an Apple Engineer, I now know that one of the example apps answers my question and a host of related questions. For those interested, the link is below:

http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/CoreRecipes/CoreRecipes.html

For those of you who are 'in the know', just remember the confusion Bindings caused. Today there are a number of differently- angled explanations and demonstrations - mmalc, your own bindings page helped immensely as it grew, but the first few months were infuriating. Any concept brand new to any developer (especially when the documentation is still trying to catch up and it's not clear what examples will answer specific questions) is bound to cause a flood of what might seem like brain-dead questions. The specifics, nuts, and bolts are well-documented it seems, but the overall concepts need bolstering for sure (this has been discussed many times and I have personally filed more than a few doc enhancement requests). Patience, please! ;-)

(Thanks to all involved for the illumination)


On Jul 7, 2005, at 2:48 PM, mmalcolm crawford wrote:

There seems to be a common misconception that for some reason if you (in the general sense) are using Core Data -- especially in conjunction with bindings -- then any issues you have are related to Core Data rather than the actual relevant technology. In this case, the issue is with the use of NSArrayController. Whether or not you're using Core Data is immaterial.


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