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Re: some frustration.. IB and Controls!
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Re: some frustration.. IB and Controls!


  • Subject: Re: some frustration.. IB and Controls!
  • From: Sandeep Parikh <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 23:11:11 -0500
  • Thread-topic: some frustration.. IB and Controls!

Mark,

I would say that I have two comments for you:

1. Use open source applications and sample code that give you the basics of
extending AppKit's controls/views.  Of course you'll have to make up the
difference but once you get started, it will likely make more sense.

Some examples:
Popular open source bittorent app with a great, simple UI.
http://transmission.m0k.org/development.php

Great cocoa source code examples
http://mattgemmell.com/source/

2. If your application is compelling enough and your UI (well, your whole
app) is a good Mac OS X citizen (eg following UI guidelines, using
consistent paradigms to which users are accustomed), you won't need flashy
goodness to be successful; people will want it and use it.

Look at NetNewsWire as an example.  Not a terribly revolutionary interface,
but damn it has a lot of market share.  It is a must have for a whole lot of
people.

-Sandeep

> From: Mark Manes <email@hidden>
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 15:05:42 -0700
> To: <email@hidden>
> Subject: some frustration.. IB and Controls!
>
> Like Dennis Miller says -- "I don't mean to rant.. but"
>
> I am working on a new application and I am just so frustrated with
> the limited controls that are available in interface builder. The
> controls I'd like to have are the ones Apple uses in things like
> iTunes. I am particularly interested in the segmented control that is
> used to show disk space usage on an iPod or AppleTV.
>
> I see many developers roll their own controls--yet I have yet to find
> any good examples on how to do this. It is not really covered (that I
> can find) in the developer documentation or on the web.
>
> Now with applications like Disco and others the "trend" has been to
> produce more and more non-standard UIs as that is the mark of late
> for an application to be cool. At least that is what I observe.
> Standard aqua based UI - especially without custom controls leads
> people to believe the application is old. Even Cha-ching has what
> appears to be custom controls.
>
> So.. is the answer for me to go ahead and see what Xcode 3 has for me
> or should I beg you guys for the "inside knowledge" on how to make my
> own custom controls?
>
> I'd appreciate your comments.
>
> -mark=
>
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