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RE: Approval and ICC
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RE: Approval and ICC


  • Subject: RE: Approval and ICC
  • From: Henrik Holmegaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:28:09 +0100

Jim Mitchell <email@hidden> wrote:

Your comment suggests that one would have to create an ICC profile for
every possible stock. That process is just not needed. Profile to a standard
proofing system and you'll be in the same position as you would be using film >based proofs and their transfer systems.

In an ICC profile, the paper is integral to the color characterization. There is quite simply no such thing as an ICC print profile which is independent of the paper lightness and tint.

To work with the Approval as a plain paper ICC proofer, you'll need a profile for each paper, and you'll need to set the CMYK to CIELab to CMYK proofing transform to relative colorimetric, factoring out the paper which is identical for the print and the proof.

If you don't care about the paper, then there's no reason to use a plain paper proofer. (As a matter of fact, over here Kodak Professional is selling it's inkjets with the BESTColor RIP just as it used to sell its dye subs with LogoProof.)

a. You might then use an inkjet proofer, and zero out the source paper white in the proofing transform (CMYK to CIELab to CMYK with relative colorimetric).

b. Or you might use a film-based 'proof' that only uses the RGB to CIELab to CMYK part of the ICC workflow, and just assumes the colorants and media offer a felicitous match.

My conceptual problem with the Approval is that I'm not sure what the product wants to be, digital ICC plain paper proofer, or something else.

Linocolor can work just as easily with a proofer in mode (a) as one in mode (b), simply by toggling paper white simulation on and off, but the notion of 'profiling to a standard proofing system' is itself vacuous. It is not the proofing system but what it simulates that is the target.


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