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Epson 9000 and contract proofing
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Epson 9000 and contract proofing


  • Subject: Epson 9000 and contract proofing
  • From: Joel <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:10:47 -0600

Subject: Epson 9000
From: "MARCEL" <email@hidden>

We are searching for a good contract proofer.
Somebody recomended us the Epson 9000 printer.
We are using Colorblind software for Colormanagement.
Is anyone familiar with this configuration (colorblind combinated with the
Epson 9000)?
Are there any know problems with this config.?
If anyone has experience with the Epson 9000 within a colormanagementconfig.
please give me some advice.

______
C. David Tobie wrote:

Proofing generally means a CMYK RIP; the EFI RIP on the 9000 has some
limitations for use with custom profiles (though it is also very convenient,
if it does fit your needs), be they profiles from ColorBlind or any other
package. Third party software RIPs for the 9000 could be used alone, or with
a color server like ICC AutoFlow, to do proofing grade color management for
the 9000. Certainly there is nothing wrong with this printer for proofing,
its a matter of how you decide to drive it.

--__--__--
From: Darrian Young <email@hidden> wrote:

For contract proofing, the best combination we have been able to find
(although it has its price) is the HP5000 (better print quality than the
Epson 9000, faster than the Epson 9000, and the inks don't change color as
quickly as the Epsons do), along with Colorproof to print your jobs and do
color management. You will need either a DTP41 or a Spectroscan, however,
for calibration and profiling as no hand-held devices are supported.


Printers, printers, printers. C.David is on the right track when he points at RIP and says look yonder. I've heard and read many issues involving Epson's RIP which, as a buyer, would make me wary. Research it well. We have several clients (service bureau) who deliver very accurate proofs, more from HP desktops than Epson I might add.

But on to printers:

Both the Ep9000 and the HP5000 are dye based. Fading is an issue. The Ep9500 and HP5500 (new) are pigmented based. Brightness is an issue. However, the HP allows you to change ink sets by swapping the whole assembly rack allowing for little if any ink loss. Nice idea.

Either way you are looking at multi-ink (CMYKOrGr or CcMmYK) combinations. Bestware, Onyx, Praxisoft, Scanvec-Amiable,...everyone has a proofing solution. Often they are quite complex procedures, unless everything you do is process color. Spot color matching is a key issue in the proof world and at present we aren't spending a lot of resources buying up every package that claims to offer a substitute for Matchprint proofs or Colorkey. What we have seen to date is too much time versus the old standards, though I have yet to download the BestColor demo.

We use Rolands, for different purposes at present, but initially we thought contract proofing would be a strong feature to offer our service bureau clients. Our most recent addition was a Roland HiFiJet Pro. The initial lure of Pantone matching (— accuracy?) however requires a hexachrome workflow, somewhat complex, poorly supported in the image/vector department, and seldom any better than a rigid ICC workflow. To manipulate or even hope to train clients in such a workflow is beyond comprehension. If we were to add another RIP and/or package for the purpose of proofing we would probably be looking at the BestColor RIP from BestColor or the Mach1 from Praxisoft (though since it's release in January we haven't heard much about the Mach1 and how it's faring). In the meantime we still Matchproof from film for some client jobs, ICC to the Roland for others to (near) simulate some spot colors.

And so far that's life in the inkjet world...

till next week
--
joel johnstone - designtype
Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
email: work: email@hidden
color geek in residence, reality notwithstanding


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