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Re: Panther, sRGB, web browsers
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Re: Panther, sRGB, web browsers


  • Subject: Re: Panther, sRGB, web browsers
  • From: Jim Sims <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:45:32 -0800

I would assume untagged images on the web to be sRGB

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#color-units -- "All RGB colors are specified in the sRGB color space"

Most images on the web are untagged. Even major art museums supply untagged images to the web. But I would assume those images were converted to sRGB before they were posted to the web. As an example take an image(it will be untagged) from the Met (www.metmuseum.org) into Photoshop and assign it sRGB. Then do the same with an image from a news agency (ap.org, magnumphotos.com). To my eyes (Munsell tested 20 years ago) viewed on an Eizo ColorEdge the color looks more logical as sRGB than as my display profile.

Are there any Windows browser supporting profiles? I don't think there is even one. I would think most images for web use would have been moved to sRGB so that they would look good to Windows users. They just don't look right in Safari.

(Apple's web images seem to be "Apple RGB" although they are not tagged either.)

Would not the use of the display profile be counter-logical, as only local poorly built images would display as intended, leaving the vast majority of images to display incorrectly. It seems counter to the current standards used for web content.

Am I wrong... I have tried to understand correctly --not wanting to waste people's time, or embarrass myself.

Jim Sims

On Dec 12, 2003, at 3:14 PM, John Gnaegy wrote:

Safari assumes untagged images to be in the space of the default display's profile. This is the same behavior as Preview, so the nice thing is an image opened in Preview looks the same as an image opened in Safari, whether it has an embedded profile or not. If you have multiple displays you can set which one is the default using ColorSync Utility. Assigning any profile to untagged data is always a guessing game since you have no idea what the creation environment was. A case could have been made on either side of the issue, either assuming sRGB or assuming the display's profile, basically a no op. I imagine the choice came down on the side of assuming the display's profile for untagged data in order to have a unified behavior with other cocoa apps on the system.
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