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RE: Dry Time for UltraChrome inks/Calibration
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RE: Dry Time for UltraChrome inks/Calibration


  • Subject: RE: Dry Time for UltraChrome inks/Calibration
  • From: Ray Maxwell <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:44:41 -0800

Robin Wrote:

> Be careful here. Looking at increasing saturation on a*b* diagrams (what
> you are incorrectly calling "spider plots") can lead to false
> conclusions unless you understand some things about the L*a*b* space.
>
When you plot the a* and b* coordinates of step wedges of the primary colors
and their overprints and connect equal tone steps you get a diagram that
looks like a spider web. Note that I defined my slang terms in my post. If
you have a formal definition of "Spider plots" I would be interested in
hearing it.

> These areas where color "hooks" around and "changes lightness" are
> natural "features" of the L*a*b* color space. They may have nothing to
> do whatsoever with the ink. This is one of the reasons that the L*a*b*
> was never intended for color matching calculations. It was designed to
> be used for representing color differences only. There are a number of
> color science volumes that discuss this and I would invite you to check
> the reference list on my website for them.
>
> Robin Myers
>
Please give us the URL of your website. I am interested in seeing it.

Robin you are referring to the very small curves that result when you plot
constant hue in the Lab color space. I understand this and agree with you.
I am referring to a very gross effect produced by some ink and paper
combinations. Unfortunately, we cannot enclose diagrams on this forum.
Plot the following values and you will get some idea of what I am referring
to.

a* b*

0.58, -3.80 (white point of the paper)
-29.96, -43.72
-32.49, -51.91
-30.97, -57.03
-19.67, -61.42
-12.85, -62.01 (100% Cyan)


I have not include all of the points, but I think you can get an idea of
what I mean by hook. This cyan ink and paper combination actually folds
back on itself. I am suggesting that you set the ink limit for this ink
somewhere near the maximum C* point.


Ray

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