• Open Menu Close Menu
  • Apple
  • Shopping Bag
  • Apple
  • Mac
  • iPad
  • iPhone
  • Watch
  • TV
  • Music
  • Support
  • Search apple.com
  • Shopping Bag

Lists

Open Menu Close Menu
  • Terms and Conditions
  • Lists hosted on this site
  • Email the Postmaster
  • Tips for posting to public mailing lists
Validation of varnished surfaces with 0/45 instruments
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Validation of varnished surfaces with 0/45 instruments


  • Subject: Validation of varnished surfaces with 0/45 instruments
  • From: Henrik Holmegaard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:09:27 +0100

Steve Upton <email@hidden> writes:

>We've found that the reflections from laminated materials cause a significant
>amount of the instrument's incidental light to be reflected without the colorants
>of the print having filtered the light. This means that colors are lightened and
>desaturated - especially darker colors. If the instruments saw the colors the
>same way as your eyes then it would not be an issue. It's when when your eyes
>and the instrument disagree that filters such as the polarizer come in handy.

Too true, but please let's not have another thread about the limitations of the ICC Specification. For normal viewing conditions 0/45 is quite correct.

There was a time when the mood of the List leaned toward sphere spectrophotometers instead of 0/45 spectrophotometers as the default instrument geometry.

For those working with press profiling, and that should be many more than is the case today, keep in mind that some press products are finished with varnishes.

The rule is to capture the characterization chart when it is in finished condition. This would lead to the assumption that the characterization chart should be captured after varnishing.

The assumption is wrong for the reason given above. Capture the characterization chart _before_ varnishing. There is a workaround, but it is not a real remedy.

Last year the BEST folks should matte Scotch tape can be applied to a varnished characterization chart when a polarization filter is not available.

Again, this is not to say that boxes of matte Scotch tape will turn 0/45 spectrophotometers into sphere spectrophometers, which is what a laboratory might want to use for exacting measurements, but just that there are ways and means of faking with an 0/45 instrument.

My interest in this is not theoretical but practical. In validating remote proofs as between press room, page designer, image designer and client, there are going to be cases in which the characterization chart is captured on varnished stock and in which FOGRA validation has to take that into account.

Trouble is these are going to be the really expensive cases. So we may want to think about remote profiling issues for PDF/X, both the mainstream and the sidestream scenarios.

Thanks,
Henrik
_______________________________________________
colorsync-users mailing list | email@hidden
Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/colorsync-users
Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

  • Prev by Date: Re: Best proofing light
  • Next by Date: Profiles and Nikon 5700
  • Previous by thread: Re: Best proofing light
  • Next by thread: Profiling a camera with OS X
  • Index(es):
    • Date
    • Thread