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Re: CMYKOrGrRB?
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Re: CMYKOrGrRB?


  • Subject: Re: CMYKOrGrRB?
  • From: Douglas Rhiner <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:41:34 -0700

Thanks for the reply!

I've become more educated from the posts on this subject.

Sorry you have had bad luck with your Roland.
My experience with Roland has been just the opposite.
Fantastic service, my rep is great, and the forum that Roland offers on their site has been invaluable.

Cheers!


On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 03:47 PM, email@hidden wrote:

The LC and LM are necessary. The reason Epson is starting to use R and B and eliminating the diluted C, M and K is because the newer piezo heads can manage to put a smaller volume of ink on the paper. Your Roland cannot do this. Epson R800, I believe, is an experiment that foretells of things to come. CMYKRBKV, matte black and gloss black and the 8th cartridge holds a varnish, so that gloss prints can be made with out bronzing....
Roland or none of the third party rips for the Roland have managed to leverage the Orange and Green inks to increase the gamut to any significant degree.
it is near impossible to print a target for color management. Also the black is feeble on the Roland. Epson's current combination of a diluted black and specific matte or gloss black is much more > effective.

We spoke with the creators of a well know rip software and they indicated that Roland had discussed with them creating a rip that would instead use diluted black and perhaps a gloss black instead in the Or and G channels. We were very interested in this, but before it could be further explored there was a breakdown with Roland DGA that has left us with a non-working FJ400 printer.
Roland's dealer and authorized service people, Professional Graphics here in NY, performed a routine service to the machine that was done so ineptly that it left the machine inoperable. After spending several thousand dollars with another service company under Roland's direction, the problems never disappeared and although Roland DGA told us they would take responsibility - Roland stopped all communications and stiffed the repair person. The new head fails to work and Roland is not honoring the warranty. Roland's legal department instead sent us a letter, stating that if we called Tech Support or anyone at the company again they would sue us. !
Incredibly outrageous business practice. They may very well sue me for bringing this to the lists attention, but I feel strongly that other Roland users and would-be purchasers have a right to know what they can expect.

Ulf Skogsbergh

On Sunday, June 27, 2004, at 01:00 PM, Douglas Rhiner wrote:

Theoretical situ:

Would there be any benefit, or what would happen if I were to run my
Roland FJ-500 with an inkset combination of CMYKOrGrRB?
Would the removal of the light-cyan and light-magenta and the addition
of red and blue broaden the gamut of my printer significantly?
How about taking Orange out and replacing with a light-black?
I know epson is playing with red and blue these days....

Any musings on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!

Douglas Rhiner
Technical Director / Owner
HIGH MOUNTAIN IMAGERY / IMAGE TAHOE / TAHOE VR
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