Re: No More RGB/Taking a CMYK delivery on
Re: No More RGB/Taking a CMYK delivery on
- Subject: Re: No More RGB/Taking a CMYK delivery on
- From: "Terence L. Wyse" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:36:20 -0400
I guess some of this depends on what you mean by "RIP". If I understand
you correctly John, you probably mean the front-end RIP (RAMpage,
Nexus, Apogee, Prinergy, et al). This is definitely NOT the place for
some sort of blind in-RIP profile conversion in my opinion. In fact,
I'd say very few workflows should be doing any sort of blind conversion
on the way to the film/platesetter. The risks would be enormous.
If it's proofing RIPs, it becomes a bit of a gray area. IN GENERAL if
you're a printing company, you would not want your proofing RIP to
honor embedded profiles but instead discard the embedded profile and
effectively assign it your press profile, that way you're seeing on the
proof how the job will actually print. That's, after all, the whole
purpose of any contract proof, inkjet, analog or otherwise. The one
case I can see for a printer honoring a profile at the proofing stage
is if you want to see what the customer INTENDED their job to look
like. That'd be a case for setting up a separate queue in the proof RIP
to honor embedded profiles.
If you're NOT the printer then you may ALWAYS want the proofing RIP to
honor profiles. Depends where you're at in the food chain.
BTW, I sit on the sidelines a lot and cheer you on on that other list.
You're a brave soul to take that heat; just know that there are others
on that list that agree with you 100% that don't always take the time
to jump into the fray.
Take care,
Terry
On May 27, 2004, at 9:30 PM, jc castronovo wrote:
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From: <email@hidden>
Its been suggested that embedding CMYK with ICC profiles can be
dangerous
unless you have had a very specific conversation with your printer.
The
logic being that you run the risk of an unintentional CMYK conversion
in
their RIP software.
At least that's the advice of Dan M''s colortheory group. As I said
there, I
don't understand why those "professionals" who operate such RIPs that
can
hose a job because of an embedded profile can't learn to turn off or be
aware of unintentional CMYK conversions. There might be a valid
reason. I
don't know because I never operated such a RIP, but I've owned and run
a
great many of them and I never had one that I couldn't tame.
Don't we have to ask why embedded profiles work well everywhere until
they
arrive in the printer's hands? The fact that Adobe caved in to
pressure to
make "color management off" the default CMYK setting for PhotoshopCS is
being held up as FINAL proof that profiling doesn't work.
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