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Re: 16 bits = 15 bits in Photoshop?
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Re: 16 bits = 15 bits in Photoshop?


  • Subject: Re: 16 bits = 15 bits in Photoshop?
  • From: Jim Rich <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 19:56:08 -0400

Marco,

My comment is based on this observation.

If one in ten images are causing a problem in workflows as Bruce and the
and many others who have reported, it seems  from my 35 + years of
experience  that  the  capture process or image editing  process or
somewhere in the imaging process, those ten percent of the images are being
damaged.

I did some conservative math based on my imaging  experiences  with   8 bit
images . The numbers shake out like this  just for one person.    Say one
person  works  on 30 eight  bit images a day for the last 20 years, five
days a week.  That is over 120,000  8 bit images.

In that number, 120,000, I  have seen maybe  50 images with the types of
problems that are being discussed here. Not 12,000 which would be 10%.

And that is only one person. Rhetorically speaking, how many thousands of
people are involved with image capture and Photoshop?

When I have seen images with banding , I have almost always found the source
of it (99% of the time).

If the 8 bit images I am hearing about  require special handling to keep
them from breaking and need to be edited in 16 bits, the conclusion I have
come to for this moment is that there is something damaging them.

It could be poorly integrated technology or just operator error.  However,
I know Bruce and other Photoshop experts who are all careful with image
editing, so I have to discount any operator error in those cases.

I think the number 10%  is way high. My guess, IF ( a big if) there is a
technical problem with 8 bit files,  the percent of failure  with 8 bit
files is well under 1%.

But if the 10 % number is are anywhere near accurate  and if I was a
technology vendor such as scanner or camera vendor or Adobe I would be on
the verge of freaking out.

And that is the basis of why I used the word damaged in my last post.

Jim Rich




On 4/20/05 6:05 PM, "Marco Ugolini" <email@hidden> wrote:

>
> Sure. I thought we were agreeing already. I was not talking about damaged
> files. Plenty of retouching is done daily on perfectly sound files.
>
> I don't see how what I said is in contradiction with what YOU are saying.
>
> --------------
> Marco Ugolini
> Mill Valley, CA


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