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Re: iPhoto 5 and Keynote 2 observations, was: ColorSync inconsistency in iPhoto
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Re: iPhoto 5 and Keynote 2 observations, was: ColorSync inconsistency in iPhoto


  • Subject: Re: iPhoto 5 and Keynote 2 observations, was: ColorSync inconsistency in iPhoto
  • From: John Gnaegy <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:55:04 -0800


On Feb 14, 2005, at 4:09 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

I've done the following initial tests with iPhoto 5.01

1. Add TIFFs and JPEGs, tagged and untagged, to iPhoto.
a. Duplicates are made and stored in the iPhoto Library
b. The duplicates contain the profiles in the originals. If the original does not have a profile, the duplicate also has no profile. No conversions have occurred.

Good, that sounds reasonable.

2. On-screen preview of these images appears to not use the currently selected Display profile. No matter what profile I choose in Displays>Color>Display Profile, the on-screen preview remains the same. Digital Color Meter reports RGB values of variously tagged test images as having the same RGB values if I convert the test images to Generic RGB. At this point, it appears there is no display compensation in iPhoto. [If Pete Carter is calibrating/profiling his display with a gamma greater than 1.8, such as 2.2, or native display gamma, this accounts for his experience where the cropped & converted (sRGB>Generic RGB) copy looks washed out compared to the sRGB original.]

This depends on a) which of your displays is the default display listed in ColorSync Utility, and b) whether or not you've used a calibration app that broke the system profile - default display profile behavior. I tried this with iPhoto 5 on both Tiger and Panther, setting the profile of my default display to a BGR profile, added an image to the iPhoto library, and the image was displayed BGR matched (blue instead of red) meaning the image data was matched at some point to the display profile.


3. Using any of the edit functions (e.g. crop or enhance) causes the copy held in the iPhoto Library to be modified. The RGB values in the file are consistent with a conversion to Generic RGB. The resulting file has Generic RGB embedded. However, it is displayed using raw RGB values in the now converted file, there is no display compensation (Generic RGB>Display RGB).

I think from this point on the matching results may be misleading due to what you're seeing in 2. above, if the profile of your default display isn't being used for matching then that's going to be a problem. You can determine if this is the case by running this in Script Editor:



tell application "ColorSyncScripting" set sp to name of system profile set i to count displays repeat with i from 1 to i set dp to name of display profile of display i end repeat end tell

and look at the Event Log, the system profile should be the same as the profile of one of your displays, if it isn't, you'll have to toss a pref in Terminal with:

rm ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost/.Global*


Since you're seeing matching indicating Generic RGB Profile is being used, whiich is symptomatic of the disconnect caused by the profiling app setting the system profile directly instead of just setting the display profile, I bet that's what's happening.





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