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Re: Who does the separations?
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Re: Who does the separations?


  • Subject: Re: Who does the separations?
  • From: Paul Schilliger <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:06:57 +0100

I am a photographer and occasional ads creator, and having seen quite a few jobs done by myself or done with my images being messed up due to profile drop or profile mismatch, I have come to the same conclusions as Lee Blevins:

I've seen so many jobs bounce at this point that there's only one thing
I know for sure....

What not to do.

And for me this includes:

• I do not send anything in CMYK unless the profile is clearly specified. Sometimes printers ask for jobs to be sent in CMYK, but then when you ask on the phone what is the profile to be used, instead of admitting that they don't know, they say the first thing that comes to their mind, usually Eurostandard, when in reality it should be Eurocoated V2 or ISO Coated! I leave it to their staff who hopefully know better (or who's computer is set on the right profile conversion) to do the separations at their own risk.

• I never send an image in wide gamut profile (Adobe RGB etc.) to a graphic bureau or a printer. Always sRGB. This can cause sometimes slight quality losses, but if the profile is dropped, then the result will still be acceptable and not plainly insipid as I have seen it sometimes.

Some printers or graphic artists with whom I work regularly are still working with their system set for the same workflow used ten or fiften years ago, which includes actual numbers instead of profiles and not that long ago, the obliged passage by an external prepress service for the separations or films. Or they have their workflow set for press, and anything you send to them is converted to CMYK from the actual numbers. I recently had a limited quantity of Christmas F12 Posters printed, and trusted a graphic arts bureau for the layout. The image I sent was in sRGB and included a deep rich red color. I told them to produce a RGB file from it (to be printed on wide gamut CMYK inkjet printer). They produced a RGB file, but from a previously press CMYK converted image! As a result the red was killed and the printer had to tweek the colors in Photoshop to make it look somewhat like the original picture. Nothing is obvious, ever!...

Happy NEW YEAR to All!
Paul Schilliger


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