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Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
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Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.


  • Subject: Re: Designers, Color Management, and Xrite , some thoughts and comments.
  • From: David Scharf <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:07:24 -0700

Hi Everyone,

I've been reading all the posts and counter-posts concerning gamma settings. It just occurs to me that its a trivial matter for those of us on Mac to just switch our screen profile or gamma when necessary. I use "GammaToggleX". Not so? Is there a problem with this approach?

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Uli Zappe wrote:
Hi Tom,

There are very good technical reasons for gamma 2.2 as a native response. These reasons long pre-date the Mac and PC battle.

But what you describe below (HDTV specs) clearly occurred after the Mac-PC battle?!?


Anyway, I think video standards that date back to the days of the CRT are clearly influenced by this technology, which did have a high native gamma (even higher than 2.2, IIRC). You used CRTs for videos, not printers, and you watched videos on ancient things called "TV sets" that had no computational intelligence built in. So I can see how 2.2 was a reasonable choice here.

But this is history. LCDs don't have any inherent gamma; they are constructed to emulate one. Given the CRT model and the prevalence of PCs, they choose to emulate 2.2.

These things happen in the history of technology. Cars driving left or right, meter or inch, trains that use different gauges ...

So maybe we'll still have gamma 1.8 and 2.2 when Mac and PCs are long gone and no-one even remembers CRTs ...

Displays are generally set to around gamma 2.2 native,

Which is an arbitrary decision from a technical POV. They might as well be set to 1.8 or another value, for that matter.


so the "gamma-do-nothing" strategy works pretty well.

It's more of a gamma-do-all-in-display-emulation strategy, isn't it? Technically, this whole gamma thing seems obsolete. You could decide for a visually optimal distribution of data (*L?) and leave it at that. And even this would become relatively irrelevant once 32 bit imaging becomes the standard.


All moving media use a basic gamma 2.2 assumption.

Which is a heritage from PCs and CRTs. But of course, it's a fact now.

Apple's committement to gamma 1.8 means that they must basically change the transfer function in all applications that import video content to gamma 1.8. This would also imply that all applications, must convert from Mac Gamma to some assumed gamma or transfer function based upon the media when exporting. So we have here a platform that universally must "touch" every piece of content that passes through it.

How so? They could leave the material untouched and just adjust the screen display (a fixed 2.2 -> 1.8 display matching, so to say).


            Bye
                    Uli
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