Re: CM rant
Re: CM rant
- Subject: Re: CM rant
- From: "Mark Segal" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:28:32 -0400
"Not worth arguing........"
That's true except to the extent they may be actually influencing firms who should be acquiring these practices away from doing so. But you're right, the CM argument needs to happen around them, not with them.
Mark Segal
----- Original Message -----
From: john castronovo
To: Millers' Photography L.L.C. ; email@hidden
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: CM rant
Resistance is coming from the usual places. The colortheory group has
recently declared CM to be a failed experiment and a dead issue that is
bankrupting even the companies that make calibration equipment. It's not
worth arguing with these troglodytes.
john castronovo
tech photo & imaging
fairfield, nj
----- Original Message -----
From: "Millers' Photography L.L.C." <email@hidden>
To: <email@hidden>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: CM rant
> John and Marco, resistance to CM appears very deliberate in my area,
> by the large print companies.
>
> Some years back when I wanted digital prints larger than the Fuji
> Pictrography could produce, I went to my colleagues/competitors that
> had inkjets.
>
> After spending about 1/2 hour while the operator did test prints, I
> would give up and try another shop.
>
> I had already been color managed. Way ahead of my time, I suppose.
> So, I could not fathom why these giant school book printers, and
> others had to do test prints. For my lab, it was one print, and
> salable!
>
> I had no idea until this search for larger inkjet prints, that CM was
> not universal.
>
> Today, more than nine years later, I recommended CM to a large print
> shop. Respone was no budget for it. Just you you write in your
> posts.
>
> However, this print shop sends my clients that need and want what I
> have to offer: Canvas reproductions of original art. And fine art
> reproductions of watercolor art on acid free fine art substrate. This
> shop cannot do it!
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:03 PM, email@hidden
> wrote:
>
>> From: Marco Ugolini <email@hidden>
>> Date: June 1, 2008 3:42:45 PM PDT
>> To: ColorSync User Group <email@hidden>
>> Subject: CM Rant
>> Reply-To: Marco Ugolini <email@hidden>
>>
>>
>> John W Lund wrote
>>
>>> Warning: potential rant ahead --
>>> It's amazing to me that even individual photographers will pop for
>>> color
>>> management hardware, training, and RIPs for their printers, etc.,
>>> while
>>> design & agency shops don't - despite being much larger businesses,
>>> with
>>> potentially a lot more at stake as they are preparing files for
>>> offset
>>> printing.
>>> -- end rant ;-)
>>
>> My take on this, having worked with design companies now for a long
>> time, is as follows:
>>
>> A great number of design firms are corporations, or part of larger
>> corporations, or act like corporations. The bottom line is their
>> main concern, if not the only one. They operate as profit-making
>> machines in an environment geared towards slaking shareholder's
>> never-ending thirst for higher profits.
>>
>> It's highly paradoxical, yet inevitable, that even large design
>> companies, with yearly operating budgets in the several millions of
>> dollars, will balk at spending what is a puny amount in the larger
>> picture ($30K to 60K) on something like color-managed equipment and
>> software (which would include very valuable and accurate in-house
>> proofing), while those amounts, and higher, get routinely awarded as
>> quarterly bonuses to scores of their higher-level management cadres.
>>
>> All of this in spite of undeniable evidence to the fact that CM
>> workflows will reduce costs, increase productivity and promote the
>> company's competitive edge in the market. All of those arguments
>> fall on the deaf ears of people whose only concern is the "high
>> cost" of something that they are constitutionally unable to
>> comprehend. Yet, these technologically obtuse people are the ones in
>> charge of the purse, and convincing them is like convincing the
>> church in the middle ages that it is the earth that revolves around
>> the sun, and not vice versa.
>>
>> Marco Ugolini
>
> Cheers
>
> David B. Miller, Pharm. D.
> Millers' Photography L.L.C.
> 3809 Alabama Street
> Bellingham, WA 98226
> 360 714 1345
> 360 739 2826
> email@hidden
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