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Re: "Non-linear"?
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Re: "Non-linear"?


  • Subject: Re: "Non-linear"?
  • From: Karsten Krüger <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 20:45:28 +0200

Am 08.10.2008 um 20:03 schrieb Mo:

The color space the picture is allready in.

Really?

Yes. **Converting** to an other color space does not help when you are not shure about the origin. Perhaps you want to **assign** an other color space, but then you don't touch the RGB values.


And how do you confirm that? Well you can't.

This is a matter of communication. There is no way arround it.

In the days of Photoshop 6 and later there is no reason to change the working colorspace unless the customer demands it.

The general user/customer has little clue as to what they want. They want something when they see it.

Perhaps you ask the wrong questions. Again this is a matter of communication.


So the lesson to learn: make shure you know source and destination. Add some "requested" fields to your order form.

Again. There are no lessons to be learned because there is NO concrete way to tell if the color profile assigned to the image is correct or not. Regardless correct is subjective, but if THERE is no solid way to confirm the color space, this topic whittles down to guessing and to me, that's a serious problem.

You can never be shure if an image has the correct profile attached. There is no technical way to do so. It is a matter of communication and trust. If you send me an image which is tagged sRGB I either believe that you know what you do (so I trust you and process your file like that) or I get back to you and try to understand how you created the image. A third approach is to plainly "autooptimize" in sRGB like a picture shop (WalMart or Sears style - you name it) would do.


True, but either you have to educate them or you have to make an educated guess.

This is old school thinking and I wish the developers would stop pushing this ideology off to education.

In a way I agree, but then all manufacturers have to keep sRGB to sRGB.

But isn't that a bit to much to be expected from a $50 digital camera or an $150 LCD display ? And what about different illumination of objects in nature - some stay in 5000K sunlight, some in 9000K shaddows and to the eye both lights are white, but for a camera one is blue, the other yellow...

True, but either you have to educate them or you have to make an educated guess by asking the right questions. Communication is key here !

Yes, but this is just plain wrong because when you are dealing with multiple users from many areas of understanding, communication fails.

Not necessarily. But I agree, communication can allways be improved.

Karsten
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