Re: SWOP Proof Certification, TRxxx Characterization Data
Re: SWOP Proof Certification, TRxxx Characterization Data
- Subject: Re: SWOP Proof Certification, TRxxx Characterization Data
- From: "dpascale" <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:10:16 -0400
Todd,
Here is a link to two documents I wrote on certification proofing using
IDEAlliance method and data, which could be of interest to you.
web page link:
http://www.babelcolor.com/main_level/Tutorials.htm#Printer_and_Monitor_proofing
printer proofing pdf:
http://www.babelcolor.com/download/AN-3 Using PatchTool for IDEAlliance PRINTER proofing certification.pdf
monitor proofing pdf
http://www.babelcolor.com/download/AN-4 Using PatchTool for IDEAlliance MONITOR proofing certification.pdf
Note: although I make reference to IDEAlliance version 12 of the
certification proofing document, the app notes content is not affected by
version 15.
Danny Pascale
www.babelcolor.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Shirley" <email@hidden>
To: "colorsync-users List" <email@hidden>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: SWOP Proof Certification, TRxxx Characterization Data
On Oct 29, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Mike Eddington wrote:
should I really have to pay money to find out the aimpoints and
tolerances that IDEAlliane is using to certify systems?
Youj shouldn't, and you don't have to. The proofing system procedures
spell out the "certified system" requirements. See annex E-G....
http://www.swop.org/certification/PROOFING CERTIFICATION PROCESS_v15.pdf
Although ISO 12646 was the basis for the program, I think you'd be
disappointed if you actually purchased a copy, as it mainly covers
characteristics and viewing conditions, rather than colorimetric targets
or tolerances toward a particular data set. All in all, I feel the
monitor proofing system has been handled competently.
Hi Mike
Thanks for the link! How did you find it? I can't find anywhere on the
SWOP or Idealliance websites that link to that PDF. Either I'm missing
something (entirely possible!) or that is not a publicly available link.
Even if I am missing something, why should it be SO HARD to find these
aimpoints and tolerances? Why is this stuff buried in appendices of
documents that are hard to find in the first place?
I don't necessarily think the monitor proofing program was handled
incompetently, but all this obfuscation makes me suspicious. What is the
point? I've had people tell me that its not intentional, but that only
makes it seem like someone IS incompetent. Either you intentionally hide
information because you are competent and don't want people to find it,
or you unintentionally hide information because you are incompetent and
don't care or don't understand why people would want it. Maybe its not
that black and white, but its like pulling teeth to get this stuff!
My interest in ISO 12646 is for exactly the information you mention:
viewing conditions. This is mentioned nowhere on the website or the PDF
you link to. Roger listed the viewing conditions from ISO 12646, and they
seem reasonable, but this is obviously not even part of the monitor
proofing certification program. That is strictly concerned with can a
given system hit certain visual targets, which is fine as far as it goes,
but it doesn't help people set up a soft-proofing system of their own.
Once again, I don't understand why viewing conditions can't at least be
mentioned somewhere.
-Todd Shirley
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