Re: maclife.de
Re: maclife.de
- Subject: Re: maclife.de
- From: "Mark Segal" <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:59:16 -0400
Terry,
Uli Zappe's statement from this afternoon:
"Looking at Adobe apps, I have my doubts about the smartness of their
engineers - "
To me, that's a smear. This discussion can be held objectively without calling into question the intelligence of some of the finest minds in this industry.
I have agreed with Bob Marchant about the potential usefulness of a custom camera profile, and I don't think the argument started about the option to have them. At the same time, I think a careful reading of Fraser/Schewe (Real World Adobe Camera Raw...................) page 34, situates the matters at hand nicely.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Terence Wyse
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Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: maclife.de
Guys,
I'd have to agree with Edmund on that score. I've read back through
the posts and I don't see Adobe's engineers getting smeared at all.
And the facts that what Mr. Zappe has presented appear on the surface
to be very scientific and not emotional at all (perhaps an English
translation of the article would help clear things up a bit).
All I'm hearing is an evaluation of camera ICC profiles and raw
converters from a scene-referred viewpoint, which is a legitimate
viewpoint I think, and how they all performed. I sort of like the
point that before you can go for a creative interpretation, you should
first consider what it takes to get a realistic interpretation of the
scene. And nobody saying's that the only way is a custom camera
profile, it's about having at least the OPTION to use a custom profile
in place of an unknown under-the-hood "profile" of sorts. We can all
agree or disagree that a scene-referred colorimetric rendering is good
or bad but that's not what's being asked.
Terry
On Sep 2, 2008, at 8:54 PM, edmund ronald wrote:
> "I only intervened to stop you from beating your wife"
>
> Let's be clear here - there were no smears against the engineering
> team.
> A disagreement about design decisions in a product is not an
> accusation.
> We think profiles would be nice. They don't. End of discussion.
>
> Edmund
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Andrew Rodney
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2008, at 5:35 PM, MARK SEGAL wrote:
>>
>>> I only intervened in this discussion because I really found the
>>> smears
>>> against Adobe's engineers and raw processing products truly
>>> unwarranted.
>>
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