Re: Proofing Offset Vinyl Decals
Re: Proofing Offset Vinyl Decals
- Subject: Re: Proofing Offset Vinyl Decals
- From: Joseph Yates <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:13:50 -1000
- Thread-topic: Proofing Offset Vinyl Decals
Dan,
Thanks for the additional information.
> The difference between the gracol2006 V2 profile and Isocoated v2 is
> insignificant. At a test day in London a couple of years ago 50 sceptics
> said the difference was akin to the variation in a normal print run.
>
> So you do not need to repurpose from Isocoated V2 (unless you are doing art
> gallery work).
By "repurpose" are you referring to converting the files on my end - from
ISOCoatedv2 - to another working/colorspace?
Not having to repurpose would be much preferable.
>
> If your Asian printer was G7 they would get a great result on the vinyl
> compared to isocoated V2. Adjusting the TVI is a trickier path on different
> substrates.
Confused - in the first paragraph you state the difference between
Gracol2006v2 and ISOCoatedv2 is ³insignificant²
But here you are saying that my Asian printer would get greater results
compared to ISO?
> Oris have a gracol2006 setup for your Epson (I did it in London for a
> customer even though I am a GMG dealer). Ask Oris to setup a new Gracol2006
> and Swop 3 & 5 queues. Compare the difference for yourself, not much.
Unfortunately I will be the one setting up new queues in ORIS. :-((
Which I was planning to do anyway for proofing Epson9800/White Vinyl
->ISOCoated
> Feel free to contact me if you want some advice.
Thanks I may once I get going on this...
Joseph Yates | Pacifica Island Art | Maui, Hawaii
> Mahalo !
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 06/03/2009 00:39, "Joseph Yates" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>>
>>> Is the real answer to calibrate the clear vinyl printer to 12647-2?
>>
>> Yes this is what I was aiming for. (though with white vinyl now)
>>
>>> I think a G7 calibration on that printer will give you a close visual match
>>> to your ISOCaoted V2 proofs.
>>
>> Once I locate some suitable proofing material - that most closely
>> approximates the final printed white vinyl material - I was going to use
>> ORIS ColorTuner/Epson 9800/Proofing Vinyl to simulate an ISOCoatedv2.
>>
>>> Don't know what equipment you have but you can calibrate sheetfed using the
>>> G7 method to hit the 12647-2 Standard.
>>
>> My overseas Asian printer adheres to the ISO 12647-2 standard, though not
>> sure how this applies when using a glossy vinyl substrate and not a #1
>> Coated paper. Are you saying they can adjust (calibrate) their sheetfed
>> presses to hit 12647-2 using a white glossy vinyl sheet?
>>
>>> If the vinyl printer is 'out of range' for hitting the standard a G7
>>> calibration is going to give you a pretty darn close visual match to the
>>> proof.
>>
>> I can envision that with the right vinyl proofing material I can get my ORIS
>> ColorTuner/Epson 9800 to closely simulate a ISOCoatedv2 proof. What I'm not
>> so clear on is there some conversion I need to do with my CMYK files that
>> are currently in the ISOCoatedv2 space - so that they print correctly once
>> before they get sent to my printer overseas?
>>
>> Joseph Yates | Pacifica Island Art | Maui, Hawaii
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Dan Wilson
>>> G7 Expert
>>> UGRA Expert Consultant
>>>
>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:06:53 -1000
>>>> From: Joseph Yates <email@hidden>
>>>> Subject: Proofing Offset Vinyl Decals
>>>> To: ColorSync Users Mailing List <email@hidden>
>>>> Message-ID: <C5D3061D.36B94%email@hidden>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Hello List,
>>>>
>>>> My company is soon to be producing full color CMYK decals printed on clear
>>>> vinyl with a white paper backing, and I am looking for recommendations and
>>>> suggestions for doing prepress proofs.
>>>>
>>>> Up to now for all of our printing we¹ve been using ORIS ColorTuner and an
>>>> Epson 9800 to produce ISO Coatedv2 Certified proofs to send to our overseas
>>>> printer who prints to the ISO 12647-2 Sheetfed printing standard.
>>>>
>>>> I¹ve Googled inkjet proofing materials for clear vinyl not much I could
>>>> find out there.
>>>>
>>>> Epson announced a ³Crystal Clear Proofing Film² to be released in January
>>>> 2009 but could not find anyone selling it yet.
>>>> Also Kodak has a ³MatchPrint Inkjet Clear Media²
>>>>
>>>> Wondering how others out there do pre-press proofing and what particular
>>>> media of files destined to be printed on clear vinyl or similar
>>>> substrates.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Joseph Yates | Pacifica Island Art | Maui, Hawaii
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ISO 12647-2
>>>
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