I agree as well. 10.5 broke a lot of things and I have spinning balls with a few ICCs in 10,6,3. Also grayscale profiles (v2) aren't supported. They get blocked by 10.6.3. This means I have to rebuild every grayscale profile I've built (about 50 or so.) Great.
And now monitor profiling is broken in 10.6.3? My 10.5.8 custom ICC for this monitor is certainly now wrong in 10.6.3. (And yes, I applied it after it defaulted after the upgrade. But the actual validation is way off compared to 10.5.8) But I hope to be able to redo a profile and have it work. I'm going to test this out with a new custom monitor profile tomorrow. See what's up.
My general reaction to the situation is, What the hell happened Apple?
In the developer API it states "ColorSync provides essential services for fast, consistent, and accurate color calibration, proofing, and reproduction using input, output, and display devices." In the past I would have stood by that statement. Now I don't. An explanation of why these problems are occurring would be useful so that the community can see where Apple will be going in the future. This effects the entire imaging industry. It effects our purchasing agreements. It affects our long-term position with Apple. ICC is at the heart of what we do. You have computers, monitors, and printers (including projectors and cine-recorders, etc). 2/3rds of that world deal primarily with ICC and if the computer/OS doesn't support ICC correctly, it's going to be the first thing changed.
Of course this involves Adobe and Epson and other companies not communicating properly. But Apple, being the OS and hardware provider, really has the unenviable job of being the standard-maker here. The buck stops at Apple and it's their job to pull Adobe and Epson and all the rest of the companies in line.
If Apple flakes out and we imaging professionals can't rely on the platform anymore, we're going to go with Windows and PC hardware. They're cheaper and if they are more reliable as well, there's no glamour in the world that will keep us coming back to Apple. We can have the most stable processor and best journaling system in the world with OS X *if ZFS every gets done. But, we won't touch this stuff if our colors get screwed with.
Walker
On Apr 2, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Andrew Rodney wrote:
On Apr 2, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Marco Ugolini wrote:
If things don't evolve and Apple treats ColorSync as something that needs no special attention or is fine as is, we professional users of ICC CM will slowly feel abandoned and somewhat betrayed in our legitimate hopes and expectations.
I agree on all points but worse, am I the only one finding that the ColorSync utility (which IMHO was crippled in functionality after 10.5) is almost unusable in 10.6.3? It crawls at a pace that appears as if its locked up. Moving from tool to tool (Profiles to Devices) invokes a spinning beach ball of death for 30-45 seconds (I'm on a MacPro w/0 gigs of ram). Is there anyone in Q&E testing this prior to release? Who if anyone is the ColorSync product manger these days?
Andrew Rodney
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