RE: Printing in Asia
RE: Printing in Asia
- Subject: RE: Printing in Asia
- From: "Robert Rock" <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:33:34 -0500
- Organization: P. Chan & Edward, Inc.
This continues to be an ongoing debate. I'm certain that everyone, me
included, would like nothing more than to work with knowledgeable
printers/pre-press in the U.S. Not only for reasons including communication
and quality control, but also to be able to put "Made in the U.S.A." on the
copyright page. All of my clients are U.S. based publishers, art museums,
university presses, and designers. The harsh reality though is that they
would be put out of business if they weren't able to print overseas.
Consumers that now pay, for example, $30 or $50 for a coffee table book we
print in China, would have to pay at least double or triple that if the
publishers were to print in the U.S.! People would simply stop buying their
books. We sometimes get a request for reprint of a title that can't wait for
a month to ship by ocean, and so we periodically contact our U.S. printers
for a quote. The difference in price is extraordinary. So while there may be
some downsides to printing overseas, not the least of which is political, we
do the best we can to create a workable and repeatable color management
workflow, and this process gets easier and easier as more and more overseas
printers try to "modernize" enough to go after the abundance of business
available in the U.S. They are not only becoming more color management
aware, but are also making gradual advances toward responsible environmental
stewardship, offering FSC papers, recycled papers, soy based inks, etc...So
publishers are printing more and more overseas, not less. They are making
adjustments in their scheduling to accommodate the increased shipping time
needed, and learning to work with the comparatively limited choices in
papers and binding materials.
I would LOVE to be able to print again in the U.S., as all my training and
my first 15 years in the printing industry were with high quality U.S.
printers. But this is the economic reality that can't be ignored. For small
quantities, the U.S. is still first choice. But increase your quantities to
roughly 3,000-5,000 copies and up, and there really is no choice but to go
overseas. So for the time being at least, best to learn how to work with the
overseas printers.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: colorsync-users-bounces+rock=email@hidden
[mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+rock=email@hidden] On Behalf
Of richard burd jr
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 8:08 AM
To: Roger Breton; 'Nipat Paiboonponpong'; email@hidden
Subject: Re: Printing in Asia
I understand that cost drives printing to Asia, however, if you want to be
able to actually communicate with your printer....keep your printing in
North America. How much is it worth to you to have your color be correct?
Just my take.
Rich
> I would be too afraid to send RGB because, to me, there are more ways to
> harm RGB colors than to harm CMYK colors. What if their Photoshop is setup
> for monitorRGB or WideGamutRGB? Are their ColorSettings setup to honour
> embedded profiles? Or discard them? Or, worse, automatically convert to
> "SWOP"? The list is endless. I tried many times to communicate with the
> print shop but that was simply not possible. So I decided to fall back on
> sending CMYK, "US WebCoated SWOPv2" -- is there any other choice? And I
made
> sure I clearly documented my proofs accordingly with big swatches of solid
> inks, even put the CIE Lab values on the proof, in case anyone could read
> them.
>
> / Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=email@hidden
> [mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=email@hidden] On
> Behalf Of Nipat Paiboonponpong
> Sent: November-17-10 12:00 AM
> To: email@hidden
> Subject: Re: Printing in Asia
>
> Why would you not send in RGB?
> And then, what CMYK you prefer to send there?
>
> Regards,
> Nipat
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Roger Breton <email@hidden>
> To: Chris Protopapas <email@hidden>;
> email@hidden
> Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 6:56:55 AM
> Subject: RE: Printing in Asia
>
> I know IDEAlliance is making headway in the Orient but to the point of
> blindfully converting to SWOP2006_Cx profiles, I don't think so. For sure,
I
> would not send RGB files.
>
> My two cents / Roger
>
>
>
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