Re: Printing with No Color Management (again)
Re: Printing with No Color Management (again)
- Subject: Re: Printing with No Color Management (again)
- From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:25:00 -0600
On Apr 27, 2011, at 5:49 AM, MARK SEGAL wrote:
> Very helpful insights Chris.
>
> You relate as fact, which you are well-positioned to do, that a great many people have experienced problems with ICC CM only on Mac, but not on Windows or Linux. In the specific instance of not being able to disable CM for purposes of printing profiling targets, if my memory serves me correctly, this has been identified as an issue triggered by a Mac OSX up-date - not the Epson driver and not Photoshop.
There have been many bugs in color management in the print pipeline for quite a few years, whose bug they are is not always so straightforward to figure out. Therein lies part of the reason why this hasn't been really well settled in so long, is because while it seems that if a problem starts to occur with an Apple update, then it's Apple's bug to fix; or if it happens with an Adobe update, then it's Adobe's bug to fix, is a logical fallacy. In fact it's possible for a series of bug fixes to reveal the bugs of other parties that then need to be fixed.
> If this is all correct, that tells me Apple should do something about it. I don't buy into the notion that it's normal and acceptable because it only affects x% of the client base, notwithstanding that it's broken and very important to that client group, whether they are large or small.
Well, buy it or not it is a reality. Squeaky wheels get the oil, and so on. All software has bugs. And as software has updates to fix bugs and improve functionality, bugs are fixed, and new ones introduced. We aren't going to have bug free software.
> Those people invested their confidence and money in Apple computer only to be let down badly on this stuff. If this is what informs Apple's corporate ethics, I can only express my opinion that it's abusive to treat customers as statistically insignificant, rather than acknowledging there's a legitimate issue facing those customers and fixing it.
I already qualified my statement as being speculative. I have no way of knowing if Apple specifically works this way. But if you read any EULA from any company, you will find they effectively admit flaws (bugs) in software are a reality, people might somehow be "injured" by those bugs, and the company frees itself from any liability whatsoever. This is common, it is just the way things are, that ship sailed a long time ago and I don't think we're going to get it back even once computers become sentient (they will then have neurological disorders just like we do).
Do I want it to work? Yes. Do I expect it to work? Yes. Has the printing experience on Mac OS been painful, in the provided context? Yes.
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