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Re: Turn off color management!
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Re: Turn off color management!


  • Subject: Re: Turn off color management!
  • From: Martin Orpen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 00:31:58 +0000

> On 4 Mar 2016, at 21:24, Uli Zappe <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Am 04.03.2016 um 20:59 schrieb Martin Orpen <email@hidden>:
>
>> The big architectural changes for imaging were in 2004.
>> That’s when developers got to play with Core Image before Tiger was released in 2005.
>
> But Core Image was/is not mandatory, and in any case, it is Cocoa only, and Cocoa had been color managed from the very beginning of OS X, anyway.
>
> As explained in my previous post, the crucial step was the migration from 32 bit to 64 bit apps and thereby the migration from QuickDraw to Quartz (and generally, from Carbon to Cocoa). That step affected only Carbon apps, so Core Image had nothing to do with it.

I’m sure you’re right, but the 32 to 64 migration was a little boring :)

Removing the CPU bottleneck offered so many new possibilities — including Apple *evangelising* at DRUPA!

Will they ever do that again?

>
>> Apple had a presence at DRUPA in 2004 and held seminars where their “evangelists” talked us through the new architecture, live filtering, GPU processing etc, etc.
>> It was *very* exciting :-)
>
> It is a great technology. But unfortunately, it has a crucial color management bug deep inside to this very day, as I explained in my recent “Core Image bug distorts colors” post. :-(

Yes, it’s very annoying.

Even if you don’t switch profiles the use of the monitor space as a default makes retouching difficult unless the Finder and Dock are kept hidden from view.

We discussed this here in 2013 when wide gamut monitors met Adobe's new InDesign icon in the Dock and overwhelmed our retinas :(


>
>> Photoshop was dying back then but Apple missed a golden opportunity to smother it with a pillow...
>
> There’s an interesting story behind Core Image.
>
> Back in the NEXTSTEP days, when Photoshop was still very young, there was a similar app on NEXTSTEP called TIFFany. It had a slightly different approach (more systematic, not so much imitating the “real world” as Photoshop (sic!) with pencils, erasers etc.), but was very powerful, and many people considered TIFFany superior to Photoshop.
>
> But then, of course, NEXTSTEP never became a success in the graphics market, and so TIFFany lost against Photoshop. When OS X appeared in 2001, TIFFany was one of the few heavyweight applications from NEXTSTEP that were ported to OS X / Cocoa. (Most NEXTSTEP developers had given up any hope of success and assumed Cocoa would lose against Carbon and die soon.)
>
> But most OS X users didn’t care for TIFFany and looked for Photoshop, so TIFFany wasn’t much of a success on OS X, either. Then, development of TIFFany suddenly stalled (an Intel version never appeared, let alone a 64 bit version). The reason was that Apple had hired the TIFFany developers to create what would become Core Image.
>
> So in a way, Core Image is TIFFany integrated into OS X. Why Apple didn’t make a professional end user app based on Core Image, I don’t know, but the complex relations to and dependencies on Adobe might have played a role.
>
> Funnily (or not so funnily) enough, TIFFany always used the monitor color space as the working color space. Which is exactly at the core of the color management bug that is plaguing Core Image now.


I like the story. The guy who wrote TIFFany also wrote the code for Aperture’s magnifier didn’t he? Great feature but, move it too fast across an image, it’s the guaranteed easiest way to kill Aperture.

But this story saddens me too.

There were so many possibilities back then. But, within a couple of years, it all got really boring. The consumer device became king and the Mac became transformed into a giant iPad with a locked down OS.

Your *bug* in a Mac is a *feature* in an iPhone.

--
Martin Orpen
Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
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