Re: FOGRA52 & i1Profiler [subject corrected]
Re: FOGRA52 & i1Profiler [subject corrected]
- Subject: Re: FOGRA52 & i1Profiler [subject corrected]
- From: Martin Orpen <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 12:00:34 +0100
> On 10 Sep 2017, at 09:01, Andreas Kraushaar <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> However we see this not for 80% of the use cases but for some high quality
> demanding customers that now need to optimise their colour server color
> transforms. This is something you can expect from distinguished prepress
> house.
> You cannot solve this problem with V2/V4 compliant ICC profiles!
Andreas
This is a big problem for the (few remaining) repro houses still in business :(
We have been using ISO Uncoated & PSO Uncoated on papers with OBA for many
years.
I’ve never felt the need, or ever been asked by a client, to make the images
printed on a blue white paper more blue.
Yet that is what 52 does.
But, more annoying than the colour just being wrong, the ECI profile has more
yellow than the 52 data produces in *any* other profile building software —
which entirely breaks the usefulness of an ICC workflow.
GMG (and probably other non-ICC solutions providers) are doing their own thing
and producing separations with boosted yellow to neutralise the blue throughout
the separation — an expensive method of continuing to favour 47L :)
With all other standards we have been able to enhance the separations of a
relatively small number of images in jobs where hundreds of images are thrown
at us from many different sources, and in different states and colour spaces.
With 52, we will have to repeparate *everything* in a job just because a single
image needs different K generation!
And, what is worse, we will not be able to send those CMYK images back to the
client because they will reject them as soon as they open them up in Photoshop
and complain about how yellow they are!
Obviously 51 & 52 will eventually cause the end of OBA-free proofing media and
all non-OBA proofing standards.
I really don’t think that 52 good enough to merit the deprecation of 47 (and 51
is only slightly less bad because the blueness is slightly less obvious).
Regards
--
Martin Orpen
Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
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