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Re: Fogra 51 and 52
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Re: Fogra 51 and 52


  • Subject: Re: Fogra 51 and 52
  • From: Martin Orpen via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 15:51:41 +0100

> On 10 Jun 2019, at 14:45, Roger Breton via colorsync-users
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Yet, I gather that the data was extensively tested "visually" between
> participating proofing vendors and printers, and that "everyone" was
> satisfied with the results. (I got the points you raised on your reply on the
> ECI List and will go through them)


I’m not happy with the results.

And I’m not happy with the changes that this has somehow caused to the older
proofing standards like 39 and 47.

It is now impossible to accurately proof anything composed predominantly of
black ink.

Black is now blue-shifted on proof.

CMYK black and white images are a chilly blue black now — even in Fogra 39 —
and look nothing like the printed result.

We should have a competition to see how blue patch A18 from a Fogra 39 media
wedge can be before it fails verification.

I reckon you can hit b -4 and still get a pass on a Fogra proof.

--
Martin Orpen
Idea Digital Imaging Ltd

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