Re: Presets etc.
Re: Presets etc.
- Subject: Re: Presets etc.
- From: "Michael Kleps [reFX]" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:10:53 +0200
Marc,
your replies get more and more hostile and I have the feeling that you
are defending AU in this regard just for the sake of it, without paying
attention to *what* people are actually saying. There are several ways
to do things and I prefer to have alternatives that do not limit me or
my users. Concerning presets VST can actually do exactly the same and
more than AU and I think having additional, usefull functionality is a
good thing.
Since FXP/FXB file-format is well documented, even a C/C++ beginner can
read/write them and since the chunk format is arbitary you can store
ANY data you want, so there is no good reason NOT to use it, since on
windows so many hosts support it and I don't think it's a good idea to
have 200 different preset formats if the first one was good enough.
There is a reason why ZIP files are still around although technicaly
better alternatives are available. FXP/FXB (like ZIP) are simply an
established standart and since we also sell soundsets, it makes sense
(for us) to support it further so as many people as possible can use
it.
I posted my comments to make it known to Apple and involved parties
that banks and writeable presets might be a good idea for future
updates. Saying "I don't need this" doesn't help anybody and doesn't
stop other developers from needing it. After all, I don't say (stupid
example, I know) "I don't need inputs so AU doesn't need to support it.
There are better ways. Generate the sound yourself".
If you don't need banks and writeable presets, fine, but I surely need
them.
Then you have different customers, but this could be from the
different
platforms we work for. Most of my customers are PC users which use VST
and thus they are used to the VST behaviour.
I've done VST Windows stuff since many years ago, too...
Yeah, but when you give stuff away for free, people are less likely to
complain. I have over 3000 customers and they want something for their
money...
Yeah cuz it sucks (who needs their song document data bloated 128x or
however many "programs" there are in a given plugin's "bank" when
they're
usually only using 1
This is where you actually dictate people how to use your stuff. I have
tons of requestes for program-changes, because people simply want to
use them. Period. We also live in the year 2004. We are talking about a
couple of kilobytes for 128 presets. How much memory do you have? I
have 1.5 GIG in this machine. That is enough to hold 29541 BANKS of 128
presets for Vanguard so NO USER in his right state of mind could
possibly complain that having 128 presets in memory for each instance
is eating up too much of his precious resources. If a plugin needs more
memory (e.g. a sampler) nobodoy prevents the programmer to have only 1
preset banks (like Xphraze does).
Don't you get it? Being able to do that is *additional* functionality.
Limiting it to what you think is a better way, is only taking away
functionality, not adding value to the format.
-Mike
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