Re: Channels and frames
Re: Channels and frames
- Subject: Re: Channels and frames
- From: William Stewart <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:24:34 -0800
On 02/11/2005, at 12:24 AM, john smith wrote:
William,
"John"
FYI: I have no idea where this "john" comes from. I signed up to
this list as Michael Olsen. Maybe it has to do with my ADC
membership (which I signed up with using a false name as far as I
recall).
I thought this was some joke on your part - this is how your email
comes through to me:
From: john smith <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Channels and frames
To: email@hidden
Cc: email@hidden
When you are dealing with multiple specifications I think it is
not unreasonable to expect differences.
Of course not. So, when I see the differences I try to solve them
in a manner which is consistent with the specs at hand.
In this case it is AU. Since I have no experience with AU I decided
to ask this list what would be the best choice for the user.
In between I offered the provocative thought that maybe version
number 0 would work. If no-one asks such questions, then maybe
noone thinks about it.
Well, I now know this won't work, because only Logic rescans when
the version number is 0.
Some differences should be expected, and as I've said previously,
I think its beholden on you (and ever other plug-in developer) to
both understand those differences and handle them in a compatible
way. Its at least a reasonable point of view to suggest that
these differences are on the whole pretty minor, so some work to
provide good solutions in both areas is not unreasonable.
Of course.
Publishing a version number of zero is not a solution.
No, I know that now. If I hadn't asked, I wouldn't have known. So,
I'm working to find the best solution.
blishing the channel capabilities of an AU and not changing them
is how the AU specification works. Changing the channel
capabilities is considered by us as a change that would be
signalled through a new release of the AU - thus a need to change
the version of the AU.
Good, this is excact information.
If you are not aware of the other applications that host
AudioUnits on Mac OS X, then you are probably missing
opportunities to appeal to user communities that might like to
utilise your AU (or in marketing- speak, you are missing sales!).
No, marketing is not my department, I'm just the developer. Someone
else is handling those matters (fortunately for me).
There is no doubt that Logic is an important product, but Garage
Band is shipped on *every* new mac that is sold, and is also
available for separate purchase - it is a very widely used
product. Sound Track Pro is a new product that has a growing
number of users, particular in the post-production video market
(amongst others). MoTU's Digital Performer is also a very good
and popular sequencer, just to name a few.
Yes, I know Digital Performer. Currently we have some compability
problems with it, which is one reason why we're looking to make an
AU ourself (our current beta is using purchased code).
All in all I honestly don't understand what is going on. People
seem intend on writing mails about how I don't want to implement it
the proper way, even though as far as I can tell, the decision I
made (to remove it from the interface) was the excact decision that
you all promoted.
Could someone please let me know where I fail?
I wouldn't say you'd failed at all, and I certainly don't mind a
spirited debate - they are the best kind! My concern was to just try
to impress on you (and any other lurking AU developers) that Logic is
not the only host app, despite its importance. AUs are a system wide
service, and I think many companies are missing opportunities to
exploit this feature of AUs on Mac OS X. I'm sorry if I gave you that
impression, and I certainly don't want to discourage you from
continuing to ask questions - quite the opposite.
Thanks
Bill
Thanks,
Michael Olsen
Bill
On 01/11/2005, at 12:38 PM, Marc Poirier wrote:
On Nov 1, 2005, at 11:54 AM, john smith wrote:
A problem that has been tackled many times before. It's
called branching your code when necessary.
Please lets not be rude here. You asked why I had the problem,
and I answered. Of course I know how to remove it from the
interface if neccasary, that's not the question at all.
If you're going to be rude to me, I'd rather not answer your
questions.
Okay. I haven't been asking questions, I've been trying to
answer yours.
Though it doesn't seem that you actually want to hear possible
solutions. I'm not sure why, and really I'm not trying to be
rude, but at a point, it's hard to figure out how to help
someone when they ask for help, but claim that any proposed
ideas that would involve actually doing something to solve the
problem would be unmanageable. I'm not sure, do you just want
to hear yourself justify why you're not going to work on a
better solution? I'm not invested in whatever project you're
working on, but I'll try to give helpful ideas if folks ask
questions, but if you don't really want help or ideas, I'm not
sure what else to say...
Marc
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