Re: we were opensource, once
Re: we were opensource, once
- Subject: Re: we were opensource, once
- From: Markus Hitter <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:26:04 +0200
Am 27.06.2005 um 18:46 schrieb Michael L Torrie:
I would have been perfectly willing to dive into the code and try
to identify the problems I had and help Apple fix them, but I was
unable to do this.
IMHO, the really disencouraging thing is, you can fix bugs to some
extents, just to find them with the next OS X release fixed
independently by an Apple engineer as well.
I was initially encouraged by Apple's embracing of open source, but I
have come to realize that Apple is just as much a cathedral as
Microsoft
is, only they happen to use (fork) open source code in a legal and
license-abiding way.
The funny thing these days is, Apple prefers to work lots more with
other open source teams, like e.g. FSF gcc, than with it's own
community. If you want to know about and participate in the future of
the Apple version of gcc, looking an Apple Darwin or OpenDarwin is
moot, you have to discuss on gcc's mailing lists instead.
An open, read-only bug tracking system would be a great start.
When the interested public was locked out of Apple's cvs and out of
Radar and OpenDarwin was founded instead, I told my fears about the
effective end of community work with Darwin, but was flamed. Hmmm.
Having clear patches to core code such as samba and openldap
(opendirectory)
would also go a long ways. Finally, shipping a self-hosting
development
environment (out of the box) would be a requirement to truly bring
darwin back to where you feel it once was.
There's nothing stopping the Darwin community to develop such things.
But how would you build a strong community around a closed, deaf and
mute cathedral?
For me, Darwin is read-only source and OpenDarwin is fine for
building add-ons at the CLI level: XPostFacto, Darwine, ... you name
it ...
Have fun,
Markus
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Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter
http://www.jump-ing.de/
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