Re: [Fed-Talk] "User" v. "Consumer" v. "Enterprise"
Re: [Fed-Talk] "User" v. "Consumer" v. "Enterprise"
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] "User" v. "Consumer" v. "Enterprise"
- From: Boyd Fletcher <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:28:57 -0500
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] "User" v. "Consumer" v. "Enterprise"
Title: Re: [Fed-Talk] "User" v. "Consumer" v. "Enterprise"
but if you ask the majority of users in an enterprise you get a different response.
On 12/30/08 6:23 PM, "Joel Esler" <email@hidden> wrote:
On Dec 30, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Timothy J. Miller allegedly wrote:
> Fletcher, Boyd C. CIV US USJFCOM JFL J9935 wrote:
>
>> For 20+ years prior to the mid 90s almost all email users used
>> separate
>> standalone apps for email, ab, and calendaring.
>
>> We when apps that combined those functions came out users rapidly
>> migrated
>> to them example include those above and program line Pine. We at
>> worked at
>> university, we provide pine, unix mail, and a variety of other X
>> Window and
>> ASCII based mail programs and users by a large amount chose pine
>> because it
>> integrated AB and Email and it had a easy to use UI.
>
> While we had IMAP4 for mail and LDAP for directories, what we lacked
> was CalDAV/iCalendar for events and XMPP for presence--and simple
> hooks for applications to call one another. It was these gaps that
> made the integrated applications more palatable.
>
> That picture has changed (on some platforms, anyway :), so isn't it
> time to re-evaluate ancient design decisions?
>
> > you don't always need a formal study to determine trends. in the
> 1998
> > we use IMAP/POP3 for email and LDAP for AB and we made available a
> > variety of email/ab clients to users and almost all chose Outlook 98
> > over the others because of the tight integration and better UI.
>
> Not to determine broad trends, no; but to evaluate trends and make
> good sense of them, yes you do need formal studies for that.
Since I moved from Mutt/Pine, to Outlook, and now onto Mail, iCal,
AB.. I must say I prefer the separate structure method.
If I want to open one App, I can. Just my calendar. That way i don't
have email pouring in all the time (and it does pour).
Maybe it's a perception thing. When I worked with Outlook (yes, i've
worked with the current in a day to day basis, and hated it), I
expected certain things to work a certain way. When I found out, when
I tried to do those certain things, and they didn't work, I got
angry. If I am working with 3 different apps, and something doesn't
work as I expect it to, then I guess, in the back of my mind I can
blame it on the fact that it's 3 separate apps.
But, I do prefer the 3 app method. 4 if you include iChat, which also
integrates into AB and Mail.
--
Joel Esler
http://www.joelesler.net
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