Re: [Fed-Talk] Air force is planning to take my Safari PC software away.
Re: [Fed-Talk] Air force is planning to take my Safari PC software away.
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Air force is planning to take my Safari PC software away.
- From: Billy Lenox <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:18:33 -0600
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Air force is planning to take my Safari PC software away.
I just looked on that List as of this morning
Internet Explorer is not Approved
Firefox is not Approved
Safari is not Approved
No Internet Browser is Approved
Another Thing Microsoft Exchange Server of any Flavor is also NOT APPROVED
But the DoD forces that on you as well.
It is down to the Point to get People that are on your
Configuration Management Support Groups to over see what is to be used
On DoD networks.
Apple is out with version 10.5.5 of the OS and the only version approved is
10.3.6 and there is no Intel Macintosh can run that OS.
I just don't trust the NIAP to set standards at all. All they do is certify
To a point of origin and never put out updates to their findings.
Billy
> From: Mark Radleigh
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:38:45 -1000
> Cc: Apple FED-TALK <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Air force is planning to take my Safari PC software
> away.
>
> Greetings Bob,
>
> If they are using the reasoning that it is not on the NIAP 'Evaluated
> Products List', you may have a tough time justifying *any* web browser
> since, and someone please *correct me* if I'm wrong, web browsers usually
> are patched and modified frequently (some *infinitely* more than others) and
> if they went through the cost and time to have a version certified, it would
> be non-compliant as soon as you patched it. Instead, web browsers such as
> Safari (as well as Internet Explorer), is considered to be part of the
> Operating System (i.e. Mac OS X 10.3.6), which in itself is EAL certified (I
> call it 'Creative Compliance'). :)
>
> In this case, I assume you are referring a version of Safari installed on
> your Microsoft Windows PC, in which case you will have to go through some
> sort of '5 steps to Kevin Bacon' flow diagram to show that it IS approved as
> part of the Mac OS X OS, or see if you can get local DAA approval (good luck
> with that one). For what it's worth, you 'could' point out that Firefox
> (version 2.x - not sure which) isn't on the approved 'Evaluated Products
> List', however the DoD PKI authorities (RAs, LRAs, and TAs) heavily use
> Firefox to manage the DoD PKI infrastructure (I think the AF may have even
> sent out a memo recommending or mandating it).
>
> Well, I hope *some* of this info helps you and hope you have better luck
> with it than I have. Last time I dealt with a 'Mac' issue with a service, I
> got the response "... We don't support Macs...", even though I was a regular
> internet user trying to send email to people within the service and their
> email server was just eating the email without any notifications (I was a
> Mac user sending email with Entourage... Hmm... Will you get this email?).
> :)
>
> Anyways, sorry for the rambling/venting. I sometimes get frustrated, having
> dealt with similar issues, and when other people come across them...well....
> my fingers keep typing as if they had their own mind. :)
>
> Mark
>
>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:53:24 -0500
>> From: "Gordon, Bob Ctr AF/A3/5PEG" <email@hidden>
>> Subject: [Fed-Talk] Air force is planning to take my Safari PC
>> software away.
>> To: <email@hidden>
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>> Does anyone know of any Govt site that says Safari is approved for Govt
>> use? Any and All help will be welcomed.
>>
>> Shawn, any ideas?
>> Yes I have looked at NIST, NSA but I am having a very bad Karma day and
>> would miss a snake at my feet.
>>
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