Re: [Fed-Talk] WWDC June 7-11; Mac OS X de-emphasized; Enterprise sessions missing
Re: [Fed-Talk] WWDC June 7-11; Mac OS X de-emphasized; Enterprise sessions missing
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] WWDC June 7-11; Mac OS X de-emphasized; Enterprise sessions missing
- From: Scott Jackson <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:15:09 -0700
If Adobe pulls their suite on Mac OS X consider it suicide on their part.
Microsoft and Apple actually work well together despite the tongue and cheek quips they pass back and forth to one another. If I recall correctly Microsoft and Apple share patents with their OS's or they made that handshake deal back in 1997 when Microsoft invested 150,000,000 dollars into Apple. Apple dropped all lawsuits it had with Microsoft at the time, and both companies started to perform a great partnership. Even to the point where the MacBU was putting out a better Office (aside from adding great Exchange support). Apple nor Microsoft sue each other over similar OS features. They have more fun slamming each other.
To say Microsoft is going to pull from Apple is an absurd notion to even consider. Remember Microsoft makes software and their business is to continue making software. If the Mac gains more market share, thus more users or a balance that maintains Microsoft revenues. For Microsoft it is a win-win. You don't pull your cash cow product from a platform that is bringing in a good revenue stream.
Two examples of why Adobe will not pull from Mac. Remember Quark or do you remember AVID? Yeah both companies are still around, but their arrogant missteps to not support the Mac OS was fatal. Both applications lost dominance. Quark didn't adopt Mac OS X quick enough and they went from being a 70 to 80 percent leader for Desktop Publishing to a secondary has been. AVID made its move to Windows and Jobs ask them to stay on the Mac. AVID didn't and Apple bought, and further developed Final Cut Pro. Now Final Cut dominates the industry. Quark and AVID are the ones who are fading into non-existence.
To say OS X is done or if fading is kind of ridiculous. They are gaining more and more users, switchers and Apple is still aggressively tuning OS X. Snow Leopard was just the beginning of unleashing the true power what this OS can do for hardware and software. Future updates are going open up the world to the new way of achieving those goals. If anything Apple isn't one to sit idle on anything. It took 10 years to build a killer OS. Do you seriously think they are done? LOL! They just built a rocket and now Apple is getting ready to go beyond our galaxy.
I will bet that Apple will even have 40 to 50 percent market share when it comes to desktop/laptop OS's within 10 years.
To put it more bluntly Apple is kicking ass!
sj
On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ) wrote:
> Adobe did it once. I just think they may do it again.
>
> I hope I am wrong on os x future. I will tell you I bought CS5 master collection. And i bought the windows version because I know it will be updated and supported. I can boot into windows on my Mac or use vmware. If I have the Mac version I can't use it in windows.
>
> I hope I am wrong but apple has changed and no os x Ada sort of shows that os x is now the parent that put them where they are, and apple is sending that parent to the retirement home.
>
> Last I read the iPhone is responsible for 40 percent of apples revenue. They aren't going to throw away Mac yet, but as it becomes less and less lucrative (by dropping support, not pushing developers to develop for it) it may become the next killed product.
>
> Again i hope I am wrong.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:36 AM, "Bryan William Jones" <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> That is pretty pessimistic there Mike... and no offense, but not even
>> realistic.
>>
>> Just look at revenues gained by Adobe and Microsoft products for those
>> companies. OS X is highly profitable for them and I expect that
>> applications for OS X will be around for as long as there is money to
>> be made from them. Adobe has been investing large amounts of effort
>> and money in the next version of their tools for OS X and if you are
>> remotely paying attention to the "openness" of the platform, OS X is
>> far ahead of Windows.
>>
>> There is a long ways to go with the platform and many improvements to
>> be made. I suspect what we are seeing with this years WWDC is simply
>> that Apple might not be as big a company (in terms of people) as you
>> might think. They have to invest their resources in areas of growth
>> to maximize the future of the company, which in this case is iPhone/
>> iPad development. The advantage here is that (simplistically
>> speaking) if you develop for the iPhone/iPad, you are also developing
>> for OS X.
>>
>> Once the second campus comes online in Cupertino, Apple will be able
>> to bring on many more peeps, so I see no dearth of support in the
>> future for OS X.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bryan
>> http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/
>>
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ) wrote:
>>
>>> After the WWDC announcement I've come to the realization that OS X
>>> is probably in its final stage as we have it right now... OS X is an
>>> open platform... anyone can do anything with it... iPhone OS is
>>> closed and Apple controls it.
>>>
>>> Apple has never really focused on enterprise... the closest thing to
>>> enterprise was creative people, and I am going to bet after the
>>> iPhone OS 4 and Flash fiasco that Adobe will pull their CS Suite of
>>> apps from OS X. Adobe did it once before, they may do it again...
>>> and if that happens, Microsoft may decide to pull Office.
>>>
>>> It's interesting looking at the 1984 commercial and how Apple has
>>> changed from "be free and different" to, "only if we want it will
>>> you have it."
>>>
>>> Could Microsoft become more open than OS X? Or, will Google be the
>>> one who takes over?
>>>
>>> Apple is now a media company more than anything else... selling
>>> media (music, videos, apps)... they make great hardware but I think
>>> the days of OS X are coming to an end... which really sucks because
>>> OS X is the best OS out there... it's the stability and reliability
>>> of Unix/Linux with a perfect interface.
>>>
>>> At least OS X is good enough in it's current state to survive a few
>>> more years before we have to move off of it....
>>>
>>> Thanks for the fun ride Apple, it was great!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Rex Sanders wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/
>>>>
>>>> Mac OS X de-emphasized; iPhone OS gets center stage. Also, no Apple
>>>> Design Awards for Mac OS X; iPhone & iPad only.
>>>>
>>>> No Enterprise sessions to be found for any platform.
>>>>
>>>> Hope Apple has other plans for updating Enterprise customers.
>>>>
>>>> -- Rex
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