Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
- From: "Link, Peter R." <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 06:48:41 -0800
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
I'm into conspiracy theories in all sorts of things but so far nobody has grabbed that log file and shown me what is in it. I checked my phone and the diagnostic setting is turned off. I click on the logs and one things shows up but clicking on that shows nothing. Show me what is being logged so I can see for myself if it's anything to worry about. If nothing is there, then I'm satisfied Apple isn't getting anything and we can move on to other more important things, like the weekend.
On Dec 2, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Blackmon Jerry (Contractor) wrote:
> Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but who's to say the off switch actually does anything?
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> From: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 08:56:32 -0500
> To: "email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>" <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
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> The issue for me is that everyone keeps saying "No biggie. It's turned off except for diagnostics." Says who? Who's to say it can't be enabled by the same folks who know/knew it's there? And now that we know it's there, who's to say someone won't find out a way to enable and access it (including turning on diagnostics) remotely?
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeffrey Walton <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011 15:36
> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ABC WNN reports the iPhone has Carrier IQ software installed
> To: David Emery <email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>>
> Cc: email@hidden<mailto:email@hidden>
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> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:28 PM, David Emery < wrote:
>> Not germaine to this particular discussion.
> Some would argue that Apple's lack of truthfulness is very relevant.
> Carrier IQ has a lot of capabilities, and its installed for a reason.
> Should we believe Apple if we are told its only used for diagnostics?
> Apple's track record indicates otherwise.
> Jeff
>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
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>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:14 PM, David Emery < wrote:
>>>> Even here, we're falling prey to speculation.
>>>>
>>>> As I understand it:
>>>> a. Carrier IQ software and its behavior has been demonstrated/shown/verified on some Android phones.
>>>> b. What data actually gets transmitted -off the phone- has not been established.
>>>> c. There's an URL on earlier iOS versions that shows data exchanges with CarrierIQ servers/website. (That's not the same as having CarrierIQ software within iOS!)
>>>> d. Access to that URL on the iPhone is disabled by default. (But it's not clear to me if this is only activated by a local action, or if it can be enabled by a TELCO remotely.)
>>>>
>>>> Is this a correct statement of the facts as we know them now?
>>> You forgot the part about Apple not telling the truth. For example,
>>> Apple had a number of class actions filed against it due to
>>> unauthorized collection and use of location data. This is despite the
>>> fact that Apple told us all we needed to do was turn off Location
>>> Services.
>>>
>>> Jeff
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