Apple

On Sep 13, 2012, at 2:24 PM, "Link, Peter R." <email@hidden> wrote:

Where do you think all phones are built? China, where else? The iPhone is assembled in China but how many of the components are built there? Which are the important components and which are built in the US, Japan, China, elsewhere? Yes, all of this worries me but very little of what Americans consume is actually built in the US.

The last GM vehicle I owned was built in Canada so what's the difference? Who can we trust and who can't we? If we can't trust China manufacturing, then WalMart is out of business.

On Sep 13, 2012, at 11:11 AM, "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden> wrote:

Especially since the devices are BUILT in China. Not to get into it too deeply but I did a paper a while back about how we tend to share so much over the smartphone because it is physically with us so much. They touched (no pun intended) on it in the Apple video. There's something going on psychologically when you're sharing (talking, sharing videos, texting) to someone in a thing you caress to your face or carry intimately in your pocket. Add to that using the same device for your loved ones and the job and you're going to have a whole lot of stuff going through this device that becomes a trusted holder and sender of sentimental feelings that shouldn't be going anywhere. Especially when you're lonely and deployed.

But the catch is it's inevitable. I've been having this argument on another list some of you may be part of where some folks see the .mil folks as still the bastion of freedom and the cyberwarriors. But that's cold war thinking. The front lines are in the pocket of every person who carries a cell phone now. And as much as I love Apple products, having that device made by a "sketchy" country is troublesome.

----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Heberlein <email@hidden>
Date: Thursday, September 13, 2012 14:01
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Iphone 5 is a Fizzle with no Sizzle
To: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden>
Cc: "email@hidden Talk" <email@hidden>

On Sep 13, 2012, at 10:38 AM, "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" < wrote:

To get this back on topic the reason this is important is that it's a consideration with BYOD on the horizon.

I see BYOD as a huge sea change.

They are portable, so they are regularly outside the protection of an organization's network protection infrastructure. The devices are user-managed, so
professional staff are no longer maintaining them. Analysis of
activity inside the devices is darn difficult, especially with iOS
devices (woe is me with audit trail analysis). Data is constantly
being stored or at least cached on them, so what happens when the
employee quits or is fired? Does the organization have the right
to make sure no proprietary data is left on the person's personal
device? What policies does the organization have when their
employee travels to foreign countries with their devices (think
China)?
Given the fact that almost all of them have both cellular and WiFi
connections, they can all serve as routers into your organization.
How many routes are there into your organization's network? Count
the number of mobile devices connected via WiFi.

Just scary, scary, scary. And inevitable.

Todd

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