Re: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)
Re: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)
- Subject: Re: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)
- From: Pierre Frisch <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:11:19 -0800
Hello Jonathan, Dan,
If you have a mission critical application I would not recommend
Panther and WO 5.2.2 in the current incarnation. The development
environment is OK but the deployment is unstable. We had a machine
running with a bunch of applications on Jaguar server with WO 5.2.1 and
Java 1.4.1 that was extremely stable. Now that this has been upgraded
to Panther the applications stop responding every few days. I think
there is some incompatibility between the new OS, the Apache adaptor
and wotaskd/Monitor, This manifest itself by Apache and wotaskd hogging
the resources until the applications stop responding. The bug has been
reported to Apple but there is no solution yet.
Pierre
On Jan 26, 2004, at 9:29, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
> I would personally reccomend it. I've been developing WO since 4.5,
> and in my experience the WO 5 release generally worked a lot better
> than 4.5, mainly due to getting rid of that clunky "ObjC/Java bridge."
> WO5 also allows you to use Java 1.3.1 (and even Java 1.4.1 if you
> want to be a bit risky, or if you have 5.2.2 where it's officially
> supported). Which is very convenient for using third party Java code,
> and for writing your own Java code in a less anchient environment.
> The original release of WO 5 had some bugs, but by 5.2 they are pretty
> much worked out.
>
> Now, one thing, is realizing the different requirements between 5.2.1
> and 5.2.2 . It's quite odd.
>
> 5.2.1: Will not work on Panther with XCode. You need to use Jaguar
> (OSX 10.2.8) with Project Builder. Is officially qualified for Java
> 1.3.1, although some people apparently used/are using it with Java
> 1.4.1 anyway. I am personally using 5.2.1 still, with Java 1.3.1. It
> seems a pretty stable release to me.
>
> 5.2.2: _Only_ works on Panther with XCode. _Only_ works with Java
> 1.4.1. Does have some fixes to somewhat obscure EOF bugs from 5.2.1.
> But according to what I've seen on the list, seems to introduce some
> new annoying bugs that were not present in 5.2.1, as well.
>
> I'm not sure which you would want to use if you were upgrading. It's
> a somewhat annoying situation, that 5.2.2 both includes some bugfixes,
> introduces some bugs, and is the only version that will work if you
> are developing or deploying on Panther (and it requires this) and is
> the only version officially qualified for Java 1.4.1 (and it requires
> this). Like I said, I'm still using 5.2.1 myself.
>
> --Jonathan
>
> At 2:36 PM -0500 1/23/04, Daniel Fried wrote:
>> Sorry I didn't make this clear. Upgrading to Java is a related but
>> separate
>> question. I am aware they would need to transition to Java to
>> upgrade,
>> there will be enough rewriting of the application happening that this
>> is not
>> going to be the determining factor.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alan Ward [mailto:email@hidden]
>> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:23 PM
>> To: Daniel Fried
>> Cc: email@hidden
>> Subject: Re: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)
>>
>>
>> unless they are going to rewrite it in Java then they need to stay on
>> 4.5.1.
>>
>> On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 10:43 AM, Daniel Fried wrote:
>>
>>> We have a client with a system running WO 4.5.1 developed in
>>> Objective-C.
>>> They are about to embark on a revision to the site, and are
>>> considering an
>>> upgrade to their version of Web Objects.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are preparing information on the subject, but since I have never
>>> taken
>>> anyone through that transition before, I was wondering if there is
>>> any
>>> existing documentation explaining the pros/cons/pitfalls of that
>>> project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone shed some light? It would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (Also, I'm trying to find out if 4.5.1 is still supported by Apple,
>>> obviously if it isn't that's a big point in favor of upgrading, but
>>> I
>>> still
>>> want to be able to present other issues)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Dan Fried
>>>
>>> Creative Constructs, Inc.
>>>
>>> (413)527-5999
>>>
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