RE: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)
RE: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)
- Subject: RE: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)
- From: Jonathan Rochkind <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:29:19 -0600
I would personally reccomend it. I've been developing WO since 4.5,
and in my experience the WO 5 release generally worked a lot better
than 4.5, mainly due to getting rid of that clunky "ObjC/Java
bridge." WO5 also allows you to use Java 1.3.1 (and even Java 1.4.1
if you want to be a bit risky, or if you have 5.2.2 where it's
officially supported). Which is very convenient for using third
party Java code, and for writing your own Java code in a less
anchient environment. The original release of WO 5 had some bugs,
but by 5.2 they are pretty much worked out.
Now, one thing, is realizing the different requirements between 5.2.1
and 5.2.2 . It's quite odd.
5.2.1: Will not work on Panther with XCode. You need to use Jaguar
(OSX 10.2.8) with Project Builder. Is officially qualified for Java
1.3.1, although some people apparently used/are using it with Java
1.4.1 anyway. I am personally using 5.2.1 still, with Java 1.3.1.
It seems a pretty stable release to me.
5.2.2: _Only_ works on Panther with XCode. _Only_ works with Java
1.4.1. Does have some fixes to somewhat obscure EOF bugs from
5.2.1. But according to what I've seen on the list, seems to
introduce some new annoying bugs that were not present in 5.2.1, as
well.
I'm not sure which you would want to use if you were upgrading. It's
a somewhat annoying situation, that 5.2.2 both includes some
bugfixes, introduces some bugs, and is the only version that will
work if you are developing or deploying on Panther (and it requires
this) and is the only version officially qualified for Java 1.4.1
(and it requires this). Like I said, I'm still using 5.2.1 myself.
--Jonathan
At 2:36 PM -0500 1/23/04, Daniel Fried wrote:
Sorry I didn't make this clear. Upgrading to Java is a related but separate
question. I am aware they would need to transition to Java to upgrade,
there will be enough rewriting of the application happening that this is not
going to be the determining factor.
-Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Ward [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:23 PM
To: Daniel Fried
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)
unless they are going to rewrite it in Java then they need to stay on
4.5.1.
On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 10:43 AM, Daniel Fried wrote:
We have a client with a system running WO 4.5.1 developed in
Objective-C.
They are about to embark on a revision to the site, and are
considering an
upgrade to their version of Web Objects.
We are preparing information on the subject, but since I have never
taken
anyone through that transition before, I was wondering if there is any
existing documentation explaining the pros/cons/pitfalls of that
project.
Can anyone shed some light? It would be greatly appreciated.
(Also, I'm trying to find out if 4.5.1 is still supported by Apple,
obviously if it isn't that's a big point in favor of upgrading, but I
still
want to be able to present other issues)
Thank you in advance,
-Dan Fried
Creative Constructs, Inc.
(413)527-5999
email@hidden
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