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5.2.2 problems

  • Subject: 5.2.2 problems
  • From: Jonathan Rochkind <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:28:59 -0600
At 10:11 AM -0800 1/26/04, Pierre Frisch wrote: 
Hello Jonathan, Dan,

If you have a mission critical application I would not recommend Panther and WO 5.2.2 in the current incarnation. The development environment is OK but the deployment is unstable.

Interesting. Do you have any idea if these problems would effect deployment on Solaris too? I've been holding off upgrading to 5.2.2, because of the problems I see bandied about on the list. But we deploy on Solaris, not on OSX. If I could upgrade to 5.2.2, in order to get the obscure EOF bugfixes, and in order to be able to _develop_ on Panther instead of Jaguar.... but still deploy on Solaris... if I can do this and avoid the problems people have been seeing with 5.2.2, that would be good for me.

Any ideas? It seems to me I've also seen some EOF problems with 5.2.2 talked about on the list, so I guess they'd apply regardless of deployment platform. Hmm, maybe I'm better off just sticking to 5.2.1 (which means I can't put Panther on my dev machines, alas) until a 5.2.3 or something is released.

--Jonathan


We had a machine running with a bunch of applications on Jaguar server with WO 5.2.1 and Java 1.4.1 that was extremely stable. Now that this has been upgraded to Panther the applications stop responding every few days. I think there is some incompatibility between the new OS, the Apache adaptor and wotaskd/Monitor, This manifest itself by Apache and wotaskd hogging the resources until the applications stop responding. The bug has been reported to Apple but there is no solution yet.

Pierre

On Jan 26, 2004, at 9:29, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:

I would personally reccomend it. I've been developing WO since 4.5, and in my experience the WO 5 release generally worked a lot better than 4.5, mainly due to getting rid of that clunky "ObjC/Java bridge." WO5 also allows you to use Java 1.3.1 (and even Java 1.4.1 if you want to be a bit risky, or if you have 5.2.2 where it's officially supported). Which is very convenient for using third party Java code, and for writing your own Java code in a less anchient environment. The original release of WO 5 had some bugs, but by 5.2 they are pretty much worked out.

Now, one thing, is realizing the different requirements between 5.2.1 and 5.2.2 . It's quite odd.

5.2.1: Will not work on Panther with XCode. You need to use Jaguar (OSX 10.2.8) with Project Builder. Is officially qualified for Java 1.3.1, although some people apparently used/are using it with Java 1.4.1 anyway. I am personally using 5.2.1 still, with Java 1.3.1. It seems a pretty stable release to me.

5.2.2: _Only_ works on Panther with XCode. _Only_ works with Java 1.4.1. Does have some fixes to somewhat obscure EOF bugs from 5.2.1. But according to what I've seen on the list, seems to introduce some new annoying bugs that were not present in 5.2.1, as well.

I'm not sure which you would want to use if you were upgrading. It's a somewhat annoying situation, that 5.2.2 both includes some bugfixes, introduces some bugs, and is the only version that will work if you are developing or deploying on Panther (and it requires this) and is the only version officially qualified for Java 1.4.1 (and it requires this). Like I said, I'm still using 5.2.1 myself.

--Jonathan

At 2:36 PM -0500 1/23/04, Daniel Fried wrote: 
Sorry I didn't make this clear.  Upgrading to Java is a related but separate
question.  I am aware they would need to transition to Java to upgrade,
there will be enough rewriting of the application happening that this is not
going to be the determining factor.

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Ward [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:23 PM
To: Daniel Fried
Cc: email@hidden
Subject: Re: Should we upgrade from 4.5.1 to 5.2(.2)


unless they are going to rewrite it in Java then they need to stay on
4.5.1.

On Friday, January 23, 2004, at 10:43  AM, Daniel Fried wrote:

 We have a client with a system running WO 4.5.1 developed in
 Objective-C.
 They are about to embark on a revision to the site, and are
 considering an
 upgrade to their version of Web Objects.



 We are preparing information on the subject, but since I have never
 taken
 anyone through that transition before, I was wondering if there is any
 existing documentation explaining the pros/cons/pitfalls of that
 project.



 Can anyone shed some light?  It would be greatly appreciated.



 (Also, I'm trying to find out if 4.5.1 is still supported by Apple,
 obviously if it isn't that's a big point in favor of upgrading, but I
 still
 want to be able to present other issues)



 Thank you in advance,



 -Dan Fried

 Creative Constructs, Inc.

 (413)527-5999

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