Re: Any WWDC News
Re: Any WWDC News
- Subject: Re: Any WWDC News
- From: Lotsa Cabo <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:32:57 -0400
On Jul 1, 2004, at 12:19 PM, Michael Engelhart wrote:
> What are you talking about it "WAS Open Source"?? Darwin is still
> open source (http://developer.apple.com/darwin/) and is maintained by
> the open source community of which Apple is a part of.
Ya' know, the one thing that is more upsetting than Apple's bad
marketing strategy is when people decide to cling to, and rant about,
every little word. We are intelligent people. Must we really debate
EVERYTHING!?!? You knew what I meant before you ever replied.
However, assuming that you sincerely did not understand, let me spell
it out for you...
My machine has NOTHING open source on it and that includes OS X. Apple
pushes their intellectual property out in two methods: one to help the
open source community and one for commercial profit. The bottom line
is that what we purchase may have ties back to the open source
community, however once Apple pulls it in house, modifies it, polishes
it, and then blesses it for resale, it is NOT open source at that
point.
> It sounds to me from your reply that maybe they won't
> touch it because you won't touch it?
Uh huh. And?!?! That was my whole point to begin with. The MAJORITY
of the major companies out there are not using it. And, that very well
may be because nobody is pushing it. And why should they? If they/we
have no idea what Apple is doing from one minute to the next, then why
should we bank or reputations on it?
> It's not like
> Oracle just recompiled their Sun based versions of their products to
> build a LInux or Mac OS X version. They spent lots of time and energy
> rewriting code to support these open source systems because they have
> merit and more importantly marketshare. Why would a fortune 500
> company port their software if nobody was using it??? Oracle is ONLY
> used by large organizations because of it's prohibitive cost.
Again, I say... Uh huh? And!?!? You keep proving my point. I am not
arguing that the Mac platform is not great. It is! And I know
companies want to be on it. They do. However, Oracle's decision to
port their stuff to Mac was based on insider information about the
hardware -- info that you and I are not given access to. However, even
THAT information was about he hardware and probably did not have
anything to do with WebObjects. What we are discussing here
[primarily] is WO and the Apple development environment. I am sure if
the developer community had the same info that made Oracle have the
"warm n' fuzzies," then we may begin to make different decisions.
R/S
Ryan
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