Re: Future of WebObjects?
Re: Future of WebObjects?
- Subject: Re: Future of WebObjects?
- From: Daniel Mejia <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:50:24 -0500
On Jul 1, 2004, at 1:11 PM, Karl Gretton wrote:
I run projects on .NET on Windows and in WO. .NET is simply horrible
even on Windows.
I agree .Net is simple horrible, but I'm thinking to make business
looking for the other option for WO. Everybody agree that WO is
superior than any other technology but...
There is no OR layer...although we are promised on in
Whidbey...designed by former NeXT guys. The problem is that this is
going to embedded in the next release of SQL Server so no
portability...try using that on Linux or MacOS.
C# is a nice language....pretty much a direct copy of Java.
I think that C# is as good as Java.
IIS deployment is nasty and still full of holes.
What about deploy on apache.
Visual Studio .NET is a great IDE and on a par probably with
Eclipse...superior to the WO Tools. It is a good job given the amount
of code requred vs a WO App.
With mono you can use eclipse.
Which persistence technique do you use today? Microsoft's recommend
SPs + data layer that you write each time?
EO could be only reason to stick with WO, but I think that is very
expensive reason if you consider the number of projects that you can't
access if you are not able to work with other platforms like J2EE and
.Net.
Some people could tell that J2EE could be deployed as a J2EE servlet,
but some customers want to develop with the platform that they use and
anything else.
Deployment. For a 'GUI based' environment there are simply too many
cludges and text files to edit. We encounter so many bugs with .NET
Javascript generation requiring special on-request only hot fixes.
Its not a viable platform in my opinion. We are seriously thinking
about dumping .NET all together.
I have worked with WebSphere and BEA and both COMPANIES are very
supportive. I'm looking this .Net open source project because open new
opportunities for my team, I can use the Macs that we already have and
we can provide solutions for different markets.
At this moment I'm downloading the MacOS version of this .Net
opensource tool. After working with this tool for a while I will let
you know what I think.
Karl
On 1-Jul-04, at 10:21 AM, Daniel Mejia wrote:
On Jul 1, 2004, at 10:55 AM, email@hidden
wrote:
Future of WebObjects?
I have been looking options for WO for some time and I have found
many options that I'm evaluating (I'm already certified J2EE
developer), but one that is at the top of my list is .Net on
Linux/Unix/MacOS/etc.
With .Net on Linux/Unix/MacOS/etc you get many advantages, you have
access to the corporate accounts and the biggest market segment, you
are free to deploy in any platform, you have access to many
components, access to many resources, books, etc., etc., etc.
If you are interested on this kind of technology you can find in at:
http://www.mono-project.com/about/index.html
Saludos,
Daniel.
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