Re: Why WebObjects / Results / Part 2-2
Re: Why WebObjects / Results / Part 2-2
- Subject: Re: Why WebObjects / Results / Part 2-2
- From: Dov Rosenberg <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:31:14 -0400
I would welcome all sorts of suggestions for content/layout from the
community for the whywebobjects.com site. I think it would be great to get
the community involved in this. We are working on a framework for a site
based on the inputs we have seen. I would like to submit our initial site
for peer review and feedback. I have seen some really great ideas so far
that proves to me that there is a strong developer community out there
willing to make WO successful despite the best efforts of Apple!!
Dov Rosenberg
Conviveon Corporation
On 7/5/04 9:53 AM, "Alexandra" <email@hidden> wrote:
> Ryan,
>
> Good work! I think what you have put together is a great platform to
> build a comprehensive site form.
>
> Since the site will be created by/with WO I think it is nice to have as
> many interactive parts as possible and it could possibly lead to less
> work as well. I think it would be great if developers and companies
> could create some kind of user account where they can update their own
> contact information. Hopefully, a majority decides it would be nice to
> be featured on such a site and we could focus on creating other
> content...I also suggest that we should have some kind of levels for
> editors...all the way from just a "Guest article feature" to a senior
> contributor...that way we can harness all the skilled developers out
> there....
>
> Regards,
>
> Alexandra
> Stockholm, Sweden
>
>
>
>
> 2004-07-04 kl. 16.32 skrev Lotsa Cabo:
>
>> (CONTINUED FROM PART ONE)
>>
>> #10: Glossary
>> As with any new technology, there are many new terms that a "newbie"
>> may not be familiar with. For example, a M$ guy may no nothing of Java
>> or UNIX (or vice versa). There should be some place where no
>> assumptions are made and any terms that may be foreign would be
>> defined; regardless of how simple the pros may think it is.
>>
>> #11: Example Applications
>> There should be simple and quick applications that a visitor to the
>> site would be able to build, download, or maybe even use on the site..
>> something where they can see it in use. It would be great to have a
>> summary of the application at the beginning or end to explain how or
>> why it works. This would NOT be a tutorial (that comes later) but
>> instead something that quickly demonstrates how the technology would be
>> used. (One person used the analogy of the guy selling knives on TV...
>> he quickly conveys the gist while you watch.)
>>
>> #12: Tutorials
>> Similar to the example applications, however it would have step-by-step
>> instructions on how to build the application or use the technology.
>> Each step should offer an optional explanation of how or why something
>> works so that the reader understands WHY they just performed a certain
>> step.
>>
>> #13: When NOT to use the technology
>> Several people mentioned that it would be wise to know when to opt for
>> something else. Just as it is useful to know how great the technology
>> may be, it will be equally useful, and refreshing, to know when it is
>> appropriate to select something else for the task at hand. As one
>> person so elegantly put it, "Any developer worth his salt can make
>> almost any technology do something however a wise developer knows when
>> he should refrain from doing so."
>>
>> The next two I am including here because of the large number of people
>> that mentioned them, however they are [obviously] not "features," per
>> se...
>>
>> #14: No Marketing
>> Tons of people replied that the more commercial a site appears, the
>> less likely they are to trust the content.
>>
>> #14: Developer-To-Developer
>> Above all, the site should be honest and open information from one
>> developer to another (the reader). The site should show an open and
>> honest look at the technology without sounding as if one is simply
>> defending the technology. Also, while every person contributing to the
>> site may have a biased opinion, they must be able to state the facts
>> without ranting. No soap boxes.
>>
>> #15: Professional Cosmetics
>> Countless people stressed that, while it is great to have a
>> community-run site, people put weight in the professionalism of a site.
>> There are far too many companies offering professional templates, and
>> far too many designers available, to not have a site that equals a
>> major company's level of professionalism. Even if it is a
>> community-run, or developer-supported, site, if you really take pride
>> in your technology, then that pride should show through in the site's
>> appearence. If the site looks as if a developer threw it together in
>> VI or FrontPage, then they will probably go somewhere else. Likewise,
>> while it may not seem fair, the more professional and cosmetically
>> pleasing a site is, the more the many visitors will [unfortunately]
>> trust the site.
>>
>> I hope this helps somewhat. Just please don't shoot the messenger.
>> ;-)
>>
>> As I mentioned to Dov, I am working on a project scope for this. Once
>> it's ready, I would like to get it out to everyone, get some additional
>> feedback, and maybe see some hand in the air from people willing to
>> bite off a specific chunk of it.
>>
>> Have a happy and safe 4th!
>>
>> R/S
>> Ryan
>>
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