Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- Subject: Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- From: Paul Lynch <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:42:55 +0100
On 26 Aug 2006, at 16:04, David Sanchez wrote:
On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:
On 26 Aug 2006, at 09:19, David Sanchez wrote:
Looking into J2EE, Cayenne/Tapestry can compete with WO?
No. Integration in a framework and the quality of its tools count
for a lot (and are usually undercredited).
I do not understand this fully. So, WO integrates better and have
better tools (even though those are not from Apple).
Most web server environments don't include all that is in WO. Making
them all interface smoothly is a major task, and involves
considerable extra work when compared to a pure WO deployment. The
(Apple supplied) WO tools, XCode, WOBuilder and EOModeler, make
managing the definition files that are required very much easier.
Try a Spring/Hibernate deployment, or J2EE, to see what I mean.
Configuration files can amount to more lines than your actual code,
and maintaining them by hand isn't a joyful experience - WO tools
substantially reduce this hassle.
This is one area where Rails is strong - their philosophy is to avoid
configuration files by assuming reasonable defaults, what I call
"programming by consensus". WebObjects approach isn't as extreme,
and has the advantage of being more flexible.
I assume I can mix different interfaces for the same app at the
same time in Web Objects. (Maybe I am wrong, I am still learning)
Sure. You still have to create all the interfaces you wish, though,
so you'll want to be sparing. D2WebServices makes a simple SOAP
interface trivial, which helps.
I have read rails is also slower than Java. Have you had any
experience with it?
Yes. It is. This isn't a big deal for the relatively small sites
that Rails is being used to develop, but would be a killer for major
WO applications - like iTMS.
Paul
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