Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- Subject: Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- From: David Sanchez <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:04:57 -0400
On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:
On 26 Aug 2006, at 09:19, David Sanchez wrote:
Looking into J2EE, Cayenne/Tapestry can compete with WO?
No. Integration in a framework and the quality of its tools count
for a lot (and are usually undercredited).
I do not understand this fully. So, WO integrates better and have
better tools (even though those are not from Apple).
I find very interesting that Cayenne Modeler can read EO Models
directly with its Swing interface included for Mac OS X. I do not
understand why Apple cannot provide something like this. It does not
seem so hard to program.
Ruby on Rails can create client/server apps that do not use a
browser, like WO?
Rails can be used to create any server technology that depends on
transactional services - like SOAP, XML, HTML, etc. However, it is
extremely rigid in terms of how it does this, and to create, for
example, a Rails client, would involve working against the
principle of defaults that Rails uses. Rails of often described
as an opinionated framework, and you don't want to argue with it.
Basically, for simple project (they don't have to be small), Rails
has most of the advantages of WO. For more substantial projects,
there is still, and probably always will be, a considerable gap.
The challenge for WO is to see how significant the gap is between
"simple", and "substantiial".
This is really interesting. Many companies still prefer Server/Client
architecture with dedicated apps. Some of them mixed environments,
some apps accessed through a Client apps and others trough Web
protocols. It gives them the feeling that security is higher,
interfaces are easier, better band with use, etc.
I assume I can mix different interfaces for the same app at the same
time in Web Objects. (Maybe I am wrong, I am still learning)
I have read rails is also slower than Java. Have you had any
experience with it?
Open source could be nice, but it is not faster than an enterprise
(with money) to develop and back up a project.
Spare time from programmers in the world cannot beat an army of
developers.
What army? There are faults with the OSS model, but time to market
isn't a significant one - as strong OSS projects often consist of
multiple small core teams - which usually move faster than one big
army.
Yes, but the problem is you need to raise expectations and will in
the small core teams. And sometimes that is very difficult.
I would really hope to see those little small core teams helping WO.
David Sanchez
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