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Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
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Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06


  • Subject: Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
  • From: Miguel Arroz <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:19:55 +0100

Hi!

On 2006/08/26, at 15:50, David Sanchez wrote:

So, is it possible that in some future (near future), all Apple official documentation will be updated to WOLips?

I don't think so. Apple *may* point you to WOLips, but it's not their responsibility to write documentation for 3rd party products. It's up to the WOLips authors to write that kind of documentation.


I am installing the WO plugin for Eclipse. I will follow Apple docs with the deprecated tools and try to find everything on the Eclipse tool. It is already hard to learn something new, let's see if I can expand my mind with this.

The tools will be here for a while. What I recommend is, do some pet-project with Apple tools. After you gain some familiarity and understand the basic concepts, fully move to WOLips. For example, I use WOLips but I still use the old WO Builder and EOModeler. You have time to make a smooth transition - use it wisely!


I am not yet completely comfortable with Eclipse plugins distribution scheme. I would really prefer a package to install everything I need. It does not seem like a Macintosh way of installing things.

People talked about it some days ago. I did not follow the discussion because I was in Las Vegas! :) But creating some easy stuff for newbies (install packages, screen casts, etc) is on the minds of the community.


And, some people commented about IntelliJ/IDEA... ¿Is it better than the Eclipse for WO?

That's one of those discussions... :) Eclipse has a very strong point: WOLips only works under Eclipse.


That's a little arguable. I think. Documentation still talks about Project Builder and such, with screenshots and all.

Where? All the docs I have read are updated to 5.3.something, and has screenshots of the current tools.


This is the first time I read this. To be honest, I find that very interesting.

If it is legal, this could mean a lot for small enterprises, which do not need an XServe, but can afford a bunch of Macintoshes (Which now days seem easier to sell). At least, to try the solutions for a little while before jumping into an XServe.

I would really appreciate if you can tell me how to do it, or point me in the right direction.

In a nutshell (I'll probably forget something, but...):

1) Edit, as root, the file /System/Library/StartupItems/WebObjects/ WebObjects and change it as you want (it has good comments on it). Basically you need to launch wotaskd and, if you want, WOMonitor. All the lines are there, just uncomment the ones you want to run.

2) Include, in apache config file (/etc/httpd/httpd.conf) the following configuration file: /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/ Apache/apache.conf. You may need to change some stuff on that file, I don't remember, but if you are familiar with apache config files, should be no problem.

3) Reboot (or run SystemStarter and start WebObjects task) and turn on apache.

4) There's no step four. :) You have a full WO deployment system, just like on Mac OS X Server.

I usually have all this stuff turned on on my powerbook (except the WOMonitor) because I develop without direct connect, due to static content stored on disk. This means that all my requests go trough apache, just like if the app was deployed.

This is great if you want to go, say, with Mac Minis instead of xServes. A small company may buy 2 ou 3 mac minis, and a) it's cheaper than two xServes (you WANT redundancy... right?), b) it's easier to get - specially in Portugal! - (a mac mini died? Just go to an apple store and bring a new one), c) at least when compared to the xServe G5, you could get more horse power for less money (I'm not so sure with the new intel xServe). Just attach some firewire RAID box to the mac mini containing the database, so you can have extra redundancy on the DB (and faster access) and there you go.

  Yours

Miguel Arroz

      "GUERRA E' PAZ
       LIBERDADE E' ESCRAVIDAO
       IGNORANCIA E' FORCA"       -- 1984

Miguel Arroz
http://www.ipragma.com



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