Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- Subject: Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
- From: David Sanchez <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:09:39 -0400
On Aug 26, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:
On 26 Aug 2006, at 16:04, David Sanchez wrote:
On Aug 26, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Paul Lynch wrote:
On 26 Aug 2006, at 09:19, David Sanchez wrote:
Looking into J2EE, Cayenne/Tapestry can compete with WO?
No. Integration in a framework and the quality of its tools
count for a lot (and are usually undercredited).
I do not understand this fully. So, WO integrates better and have
better tools (even though those are not from Apple).
Most web server environments don't include all that is in WO.
Making them all interface smoothly is a major task, and involves
considerable extra work when compared to a pure WO deployment. The
(Apple supplied) WO tools, XCode, WOBuilder and EOModeler, make
managing the definition files that are required very much easier.
Try a Spring/Hibernate deployment, or J2EE, to see what I mean.
Configuration files can amount to more lines than your actual code,
and maintaining them by hand isn't a joyful experience - WO tools
substantially reduce this hassle.
This is one area where Rails is strong - their philosophy is to
avoid configuration files by assuming reasonable defaults, what I
call "programming by consensus". WebObjects approach isn't as
extreme, and has the advantage of being more flexible.
I know. I absolutely agree with every thing you say.
I hope, XCode will be used to develop WO in the future. I do not know
how because Cocoa-bridge is deprecated. They would need to re-write
all the WO apps to use Objective-C and generate Java code, made them
full Java Apps or just do not provide them anymore.
But if Apple thinks about making all the WO tools pure Java (or pure
Objective-C), Why did they not show those apps first and later
deprecate the old ones? Instead of deprecating and leave amateurs
wondering....
That's the little thing that I cannot understand.
David Sanchez
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