Re: Project architecture
Re: Project architecture
- Subject: Re: Project architecture
- From: Robert Walker <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:47:58 -0400
I think it's also noteworthy to mention that WO is not unique in this at all. You would have exactly the same issues with anything based on J2EE. JSPs are not dissimilar to WO Templates. Even some scripting solutions like Ruby on Rails are not immune from this. You're still going to have programmer specific custom tags within the UI that a pure web designer will have to work around.
I personally think the real problem is not that HTML is for designers, but that designers are having to deal with HTML "code." If the web was build by designers instead of programmers then designers would not ever see the HTML code.
Designers working in Adobe InDesign never see, or care anything about, how InDesign keeps track of formatting text and graphics on a page, nor should they. On the contrary a UI programmer cares very much about how the system organizes windows and views within those windows. They need to know specifically how to interact with those objects from within their code.
So this is not IMHO a failure in any way of WebObjects or any other solution, it's a failure of the basic design of the Web in general. So we do the best we can by building good communication and cross training between coders and designer to work around this fundamental flaw.
CSS is helping, but it's still to much for the programmer and not enough for the designer, this is getting better all the time as the design tools improve. A Web build by the likes of Adobe would have made it a much difference place than it is today. Designer wouldn't be dealing with code and there would be a much more distinct divide between web "pages" and web "applications." On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Webobjects Developer wrote: Using WO, how does one separate the web designer from the programmer?
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