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Re: Webobjects-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 866
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Re: Webobjects-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 866


  • Subject: Re: Webobjects-dev Digest, Vol 4, Issue 866
  • From: Mike Schrag <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:56:27 -0500

The nice things about WO was the tools.
So the Eclipse community should create a dmg consisting of click and run solutions.
This is actually being worked on now (by someone else in the community) ... A proper dmg with .pkg install of all of the recommended tool versions (sans database at the moment, though ... 5.4 recommends Derby, but I don't actually know what the state of GUI front-ends for that is vs say a FrontBase or OpenBase).

1 replace the tools WOB, eomodeler, openbase. put it out on a dmg that works - charge money for it
then all the guru's can tweak away while the less skilled can just drag - drop and develop. When enough bugs are fixed you just release a update of the dmg.
I think this is the direction that is intended, so we can try to get a stable baseline to recommend to people. We're still working out Leopard kinks, but it's close.

Had Apple really kept in-tune they should have updated WO over the years. <snip>
I think everyone on this list is basically in agreement on what you said here. I've looked, and I keep coming back to WO. It's a very strong platform with a lot of compelling features.

I think opensource community is basically a closed community to anyone but guru's - So it could be great but if you continue to tweak the rest of us out then it is only a matter of time until a WO on steriods program will surface. There was a hell of a lot of money made putting Linux on a CD.
I think we are explicitly trying to "tweak everyone in" rather than "tweak everyone out". Whether we're successful towards that end or not is certainly up for debate, but I think if you compare the tools to where they were a year ago, you'll find them in a much better place, and continuing to get better. I mentioned earlier that the majority of my work on WOLips recently is towards decreasing the barriers to using the tools rather than major new features.

ms

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