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Re: Writing a beginners tutorial, some D2W questions on Webassistant and ERAtachment
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Re: Writing a beginners tutorial, some D2W questions on Webassistant and ERAtachment


  • Subject: Re: Writing a beginners tutorial, some D2W questions on Webassistant and ERAtachment
  • From: Guido Neitzer <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:01:54 -0700

On 19.01.2008, at 13:47, Johan Henselmans wrote:

The application would be a shop, with a D2W backend for the products (with ERAttachment for the product-pictures), fulfilment (some kind of app that could run in an ipod touch) and some statistics app that would make use of displaygroups and SVG.

The only thing I can say about that: Don't make beginners miserable with D2W. To use D2W and to be able to customize an application to your needs, you need a way more deep understanding of WebObjects than a tutorial can provide.


And personally I think that your tutorial is way overfilled with stuff. Beginners can take only so much in a tutorial. If you don't want to write a 600 page book, you will not be able to bring all that stuff in, add diagrams and screenshots and explain everything a beginner needs to know. And believe me: I know what I'm talking about as I'm facing the same problem.

That tutorial is nearly finished, so I am starting with the DirectToWeb part. On Leopard, the DirectToWeb Assistant does not work.

If you really want to use D2W - stay away from that rule-breaking, stupid assistant. Nobody will ever understand D2W in the necessary way with seeing and writing actual rules. In my opinion that assistant was a bad idea from the very beginning. And I do a lot of D2W.


(and no, Rule Editor is not an easy and quick tool if you're a beginner and you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot)

Again: D2W is WAY OVER THE HEAD for a beginner to be happy with. It is a very cool technology demonstration and it is an incredibly powerful tool for WO developers who really understand WO but it is also something where beginners will hit the wall with the first customization they want to make.


cug

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Real-World WebObjects class at the Big Nerd Ranch
March 2008, Frankfurt, Germany
http://www.bignerdranch.com/classes/webobjects.shtml



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