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Re: Better start with Wonder than WO
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Re: Better start with Wonder than WO


  • Subject: Re: Better start with Wonder than WO
  • From: Gustavo Pizano <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:19:29 -0500

Ok so this is what Im gonna do.

All of you have a point. Art have a point about the available time I have to learn, but im doing a great effort in spending at least 3 hours of my day in WO learning, (reading, trying, investigating, asking). As for Mike and the other guys have another good point about what Wonder can offer me, and now that im new I can learn from wonder without worrying about all the kool stuff it has, someday I will need them and by that time I will use them and know how they work.

It was kind of confusing, I have retyped this email like 3 times, when reading the mails you guys have sent.

SO Im gonna start with Wonder this "parallel project" I know I will not use most of the stuff it can offer me, the project its not big, the only big things is the data in the db, there is a table about 4000+ records and ofcourse the relatonship this tables has with others, something Im understanding Wonder will take of it. (4000 records are big when being a student)
I will keep you guys informed about my progress. there are may newcomers and i think if I keep track of these progresses they will benefit form it.
After I finish this "parallel project" I will go deeper into the other features Wonder offers me. With the help of all of you guys..





Gus

PS Im loving this mailing list



On Mar 20, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Art Isbell wrote:

On Mar 20, 2008, at 10:34 AM, David LeBer wrote:

On 20-Mar-08, at 4:27 PM, Gustavo Pizano wrote:

:( now im lost.

GUS

PS: what would be the reason for using wonder?

Short list?:

Ajax.framework - Ajax the WebObjects way
ERXGenericRecord - will* methods plus much much more
Auto EOEditingContext locking
ERMigrations - Easy database schema change managment
ERPrototypes - Consistent set of Prototypes for many databases
Validity - Model based validation
ERDirectToWeb - Lots of extra stuff for D2W applications
ERTaggable - Tagging mixin for WebObjects apps
ERAttachment - Attachment mixin for WebObjects apps
ERJavaMail - WO wrapper around Javamail
Any number of things in ERXExtensions


Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Gustavo's goal to compare WO with other Web development technologies as part of a computer science course? How much can a student expect to learn while also spending time for other classes as well? WO itself is huge. Add WOnder on top of that and I think you'll be guaranteeing the Gustavo doesn't finish his assignment by the end of his course. I mean, how much of the above short list will Gustavo actually need in the next few months?

I think expecting a WO newby to learn WO plus WOnder concurrently may be enough to drive some newbies to other technologies. I'm a proponent of the KISS principle wherever possible; e.g., learn WO basics first, then add WOnder when you understand WO basics.

Aloha,
Art

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